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I believe that the major problem with the Developer Preview is that there are no "consumption" metro apps for syncing to you home server for video, music and photos. At this time, you really spend time working in the desktop mode using Win32 apps.

I agree that I can never give up the power of the desktop, however, using your device as a consumer of media will shine in Metro.

I currently have it installed on an Acer W500 10.1" Tablet. It installed with no drivers required, is connected to my homeserver using Media Player/Zune, PhotoGallery and of course my Live Account services. Unit has multiple USB, with a dockable keyboard.

I run Sage TV Client software which allows me watch Live TV, Recorded TV/Movies/Videos, Slideshow Pictures, scroll my EPG, and schedule recordings, all with metadata and art, and of course it plays music. This device streams any file format I throw at it. This openess, and the fact that MS is going to allow both Metro and non-Metro apps to be marketed in their store, as well as loading of non-marketplace apps means you can have it your way. The OS is open.

Using the touch features on the Tablet is excellent. It is fast, fluid, and although not as customizable as the upcoming beta, it performs well, and is a refreshingly exciting OS when it is alive with info. Just need the apps to liven it up. On the tablet, I moved the taskbar to the side, and this makes it more consistent. Frequently used desktop apps are pinned on the desktop taskbar, and switching between desktop and Metro works fine.

Desktop has more ribbon, it works, but I'm old school lol.


Cold boot averages ~9secs to picture login screen, use my live account to login, so it syncs my stuff, and off I go.

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Will the beta be available to the public just like the preview did?

EDIT: Publicly available on FEB. Woot. Atleast we'll have a better idea what microsoft is cooking.
Edited by bogey1337 - 12/20/11 at 11:28pm
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Am I the only one who sees absolutely nothing wrong with Windows 8?

Sure, Metro is terrible for a desktop... And? TURN IT OFF! Come on guys this is easy stuff. You aren't running UAC are you? Same deal, only this time, unlike UAC, Metro DOES have a use: it is great for tablets and other touch screen devices (compared to normal windows desktop environment anyway).

I don't recall anyone up in arms, nerd-raging about Vista's inclusion of pen and touch input features or its continuation in windows 7. it simply has no effect on the average user and for the few of us who use touch or pen input devices, it's freaking wonderful. Why freak out and bash an OPTIONAL feature just because you aren't the demographic it's designed for? Just forget it and move on.

Once you disable Metro, you get a faster, leaner, and more polished Windows 7. That's all windows 7 was over Vista and everyone hailed it as the second coming of Christ in operating system form. On the mobile/touchscreen side of things, this finally makes windows a somewhat viable platform without extensive modification. I fail to see how that is anything but good.

Best case scenario - it bring unity among desktops, laptops, tablets, touch screens and mobile platforms. Worst case - Everyone just strips out Metro and uses it on their desktop as Windows 7.5, graphics card manufacturers get an excuse to make new cards, and bulldozer stops being quite so worthless.
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It should be noted that unless you are on a Touch Screen Device in the final version it will look like normal windows. smile.gif

It was noted countless times before but people love to take the negatard position.

I think they're just doing it for reputation points/to look cool.

Or perhaps it's because we're seeing the Metro UI crossover into other applications?

What's wrong with that if the desktop has a touchscreen? If it's disabled by default otherwise then the metro UI affects no one and everyone should stop whining about it already.
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Beta! Although I got of the Dev Preview a while ago. I still have the 32 and 64-bit installation discs though. tongue.gif I just really want to get rid of the Metro though.
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After testing Win8, I can say with out a doubt it is the worse OS since Windows ME. It has a couple things better than Windows 7, but everything else is far worse.

I see Windows 9 coming out a year later, and going back to the standard windows theme after Windows 8's most likely terrible sales. There's far to many people that don't understand windows and it's been using the same basic theme for years, and far to many people that don't want change. The change isn't even a good change. 90% of the population has a hard time understanding the OS they've been on for years. It's just too different for mainstream.

Here's hoping Microsoft opens their eyes and goes back to the default layout for Windows 8. The tablet view is nice to have, but it should be a mode you enable.. not default, and definitely not required.
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Am I the only one who sees absolutely nothing wrong with Windows 8?
Sure, Metro is terrible for a desktop... And? TURN IT OFF! Come on guys this is easy stuff. You aren't running UAC are you? Same deal, only this time, unlike UAC, Metro DOES have a use: it is great for tablets and other touch screen devices (compared to normal windows desktop environment anyway).
I don't recall anyone up in arms, nerd-raging about Vista's inclusion of pen and touch input features or its continuation in windows 7. it simply has no effect on the average user and for the few of us who use touch or pen input devices, it's freaking wonderful. Why freak out and bash an OPTIONAL feature just because you aren't the demographic it's designed for? Just forget it and move on.
Once you disable Metro, you get a faster, leaner, and more polished Windows 7. That's all windows 7 was over Vista and everyone hailed it as the second coming of Christ in operating system form. On the mobile/touchscreen side of things, this finally makes windows a somewhat viable platform without extensive modification. I fail to see how that is anything but good.
Best case scenario - it bring unity among desktops, laptops, tablets, touch screens and mobile platforms. Worst case - Everyone just strips out Metro and uses it on their desktop as Windows 7.5, graphics card manufacturers get an excuse to make new cards, and bulldozer stops being quite so worthless.

Finally someone who see's it as it is here. Also if I see one more post with some guy thinking he's being the first person and all witty then smugly saying "oh this will flop because MS makes a poor OS every other release, xp good vista crap ect" Im going to scream.
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After testing Win8, I can say with out a doubt it is the worse OS since Windows ME. It has a couple things better than Windows 7, but everything else is far worse.
I see Windows 9 coming out a year later, and going back to the standard windows theme after Windows 8's most likely terrible sales. There's far to many people that don't understand windows and it's been using the same basic theme for years, and far to many people that don't want change. The change isn't even a good change. 90% of the population has a hard time understanding the OS they've been on for years. It's just too different for mainstream.
Here's hoping Microsoft opens their eyes and goes back to the default layout for Windows 8. The tablet view is nice to have, but it should be a mode you enable.. not default, and definitely not required.

Sadly Win8 might actually be a success because of how lazy (I guess that's nicer than stupid) the majority of consumers are. Just think of why people like OSX's GUI layout and the ipad's. Look at what's happened to youtube and Gmail as well. People are stupid and they want things that let them continue on that low brain power. Granted, I think it will be amusing to hear a few people complain about the layout and how it's so slow with a mouse.

Ultimately, it won't be the GUI that kills Win8...it will be whether they can make windows light enough to work on ARM and still have a large portion of Windows programs ported to that architecture.
     
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I still think people in general are missing the point here and my largest criticism of Windows 8. It's a two faced OS, that's going to attempt to pander to two types of users. Your novice PC user will fall in line with Metro, and your tech types and businesses will continue to use the "legacy" desktop. The problem I have with this is thats a lot of juggling MS is going to have to deal with. I'm afraid that if they drop a ball on one side of this balance, it'll cause the ball to drop on the other. This balance MS has to maintain will really show once it's out in the wild. That is when things will get interesting.
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I still think people in general are missing the point here and my largest criticism of Windows 8. It's a two faced OS, that's going to attempt to pander to two types of users. Your novice PC user will fall in line with Metro, and your tech types and businesses will continue to use the "legacy" desktop. The problem I have with this is thats a lot of juggling MS is going to have to deal with. I'm afraid that if they drop a ball on one side of this balance, it'll cause the ball to drop on the other. This balance MS has to maintain will really show once it's out in the wild. That is when things will get interesting.

Yeah, as long as you're trying to design around two completely different user-input interfaces, you will have to make functional sacrifices for both--that's my biggest concern.
    
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