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Thanks alot for all the facts & figures...I appreciate that, downloaded it to my WC info...I like to compare different rigs and compare results with different components...Kind of helps me get a handle on it all...Your 3200 is 2.0 ghz with a 10 x multiplter isn't it?....A 8.45c at above ambient at 2.5ghz OC seems very good to me .....Get all those little bubbles out and get the AS5 cured should drop more from that even...Take a pencil or something simular and tap your lines as it is running might help to break some ot the smaller stuff off...On my res I can just leave the top off to clear the air...You may have to go ahead and add you a T-line you could hide it behind your mobo tray while you are not using it......I have heard that if you turn your comp off for a little while during the first few days like for 15 or 20 minutes it will help to cure your AS5 more completely, who knows though, wouldn't hurt any thing anyway...No wonder you said it was uncomfortably hot in there last night...You keep your rendering farm in there to? Yeah I still love the old cars no way would I pay that much for them...I would just go racing and wreck them anyway....Thank's again for taking all that time to get me that info....PS- Looks like the Core Center utility is close with your other temps....Edit: Could you give me your core steppings and also revision sorry to be such a pain in the neck need to add it to the other info to make it correct...Most people just post there temp's with out even an ambient to compare to, much less v-core...Thanks for your time...
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Thanks alot for all the facts & figures...I appreciate that, downloaded it to my WC info...I like to compare different rigs and compare results with different components...Kind of helps me get a handle on it all...Your 3200 is 2.0 ghz with a 10 x multiplter isn't it?....A 8.45c at above ambient at 2.5ghz OC seems very good to me .....Get all those little bubbles out and get the AS5 cured should drop more from that even...Take a pencil or something simular and tap your lines as it is running might help to break some ot the smaller stuff off...On my res I can just leave the top off to clear the air...You may have to go ahead and add you a T-line you could hide it behind your mobo tray while you are not using it......I have heard that if you turn your comp off for a little while during the first few days like for 15 or 20 minutes it will help to cure your AS5 more completely, who knows though, wouldn't hurt any thing anyway...No wonder you said it was uncomfortably hot in there last night...You keep your rendering farm in there to? Yeah I still love the old cars no way would I pay that much for them...I would just go racing and wreck them anyway....Thank's again for taking all that time to get me that info....PS- Looks like the Core Center utility is close with your other temps....
yep its 2.0ghz with a 10x multiplier. I kinda wonder what the temp would have been at the stock clock. But I should take a pic of the air pocket status. I tap it every few hours and it will fill completely for a few seconds and then the air pocket will form again. I also noticed If I move the tube a little or bend it the air pocket disappears till I let it go back to its natural shape.
But if all else fails I might have to T line it.. Personally I don't like the look of T lines to much.
Lol yeah my computers in here keep it pretty toasty. I freelance on the side for companies and I use them to render pretty often. Sometimes the heat is unbearable because it gets trapped in here. I mean in the mid to upper 90's and even with a column fan it just blows hot air. Also the electricity bill sucks because not only do i have to power all them but I have to cool all the heat they create and as you can tell its not enough. So I try to leave but stop back for check-ups while doing heavy rendering.

When I think about it, it is a pretty respectable temp. I shouldn't expect the cpu to be at ambient temp. And even when OCed. But when I did come in here before all the machines were on, the temps did read 2-3C lower. The nice thing is I was able to up the voltage to stabilize the cpu for some good gaming. Before it would crash every now and then at 2.5ghz.
post #53 of 98
Your air might be hiding in your fittings some where keep taping on those lines whenever you see the air....Your not still getting alot of tiny bubbles are you? That could mean you sucking air some where...I bet when you get all those rigs up at once it's like having a bunch of space heaters on at once.....Don't blame you for staying out of there....IMHO you are getting respectable temp's with a light OC on it to ....After everything gets straightened out on it will do alot better, they are the most impressive at heavier loads....Is the 1.42 v-core stock or is it 1.4 .....Hide that T-line some where if possible...Snerp should be back tomorrow to help to, he sure doesn't mind helping out...Can you imagine how many times he gets asked the same thing over and over...So are you going to use this race horse just for gaming or incorporate it into your work also? I hate to keep asking you for things, but when you get a chance to , no hurry at all could you give me the revision and core steppings on your chip?Pain in the neck I know, just want to put it with the other info you provided me...There is no hurry at all, I have 4 or 5 Gigs of different paticulars on comp spec's....And beleive me it is a mess...I go into every month or so to try to colalate and cross reference some of it, usally give up in disgust after a 1/2hr or so ....That is about all I use a comp for researching different things that and web surfing...Just doing the WC and stuff for fun, and so far it has been great fun, have learned alot at this forum...And met some good people to...Good luck and have some Fun.....
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I got pics of the bubble progress. The color is the same because it still has a fizzyness but If you do look at the top barb on the RBX notice there is no more bubble! However I do have one in each return line that are being pesky..

I apologize for the secular highlights on the tubing look just like the white bubbles. But I did fix the ISO on the digi camera, so no more grain.





I forgot to post a pic of the back after I added the loop



Also do you have a guess as to what "temp3" is on speed fan. I've looked everywhere but allot of people contradict one another. I don't know who’s right..
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Your air might be hiding in your fittings some where keep taping on those lines whenever you see the air....Your not still getting alot of tiny bubbles are you? That could mean you sucking air some where...I bet when you get all those rigs up at once it's like having a bunch of space heaters on at once.....Don't blame you for staying out of there....IMHO you are getting respectable temp's with a light OC on it to ....After everything gets straightened out on it will do alot better, they are the most impressive at heavier loads....Is the 1.42 v-core stock or is it 1.4 .....Hide that T-line some where if possible...Snerp should be back tomorrow to help to, he sure doesn't mind helping out...Can you imagine how many times he gets asked the same thing over and over...So are you going to use this race horse just for gaming or incorporate it into your work also? I hate to keep asking you for things, but when you get a chance to , no hurry at all could you give me the revision and core steppings on your chip?Pain in the neck I know, just want to put it with the other info you provided me...There is no hurry at all, I have 4 or 5 Gigs of different paticulars on comp spec's....And beleive me it is a mess...I go into every month or so to try to colalate and cross reference some of it, usally give up in disgust after a 1/2hr or so ....That is about all I use a comp for researching different things that and web surfing...Just doing the WC and stuff for fun, and so far it has been great fun, have learned alot at this forum...And met some good people to...Good luck and have some Fun.....


I though the stock v-core was 1.4v. I try to keep it as low as possible while maintaining a stable OC just to keep it cool in this hot room.

Yeah snerps a good guy, and i owe him some rep. I wonder if he has some input on the bubble situation because its like soda running though these lines.

oh no, I don't mind. You helped me out so I don't mind helping you out if i can. I'd say Im better working with software than hardware but the hardware is what fascinates me. But in terms of "core steppings" I don't really understand. Do you mean volt steps in the bios? btw, I hate this msi bios. omg, its bad for overclocking. Are you making another thread/sticky with all this info you are collecting?

All the other PC's have Asus motherboards but the ironic thing is I don't OC them. But I probably wont use this WC pc for work. Mostly just games. Even overclocked its not as strong as the dual 4400+ the others have because I need strong CPU's to get the work done fast.

I really like this WC pc because I feel its the underdog and its kinda a play toy since I don't dare mess with the ones that are important for work. Ya know how people have project cars well its the same thing for me only its with a pc.
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Temp 3 on mine says -10c so I'm going to pretend it is cpu temp!!!!No really that is what it says ,as you might guess Ive never figured out what I have at -10c....Weird ain't it!!! Looks like you have way to much air entrianment in your loop to cause it to be white with bubbles like that....If it was on a regular loop that you could bleed I would say that you were sucking air big time...But not being able to bleed normally it could just as well be what air is trapped in it is just being recicrulated over and over....As long as your temp's are holding steady I guess it wont hurt your pump, you know what I mean.... cavitatation...Had a hard time spitting that out ...How do you like doing animation ? Is it still fun or is it just a job now?....
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Temp 3 on mine says -10c so I'm going to pretend it is cpu temp!!!!No really that is what it says ,as you might guess Ive never figured out what I have at -10c....Weird ain't it!!! Looks like you have way to much air entrianment in your loop to cause it to be white with bubbles like that....If it was on a regular loop that you could bleed I would say that you were sucking air big time...But not being able to bleed normally it could just as well be what air is trapped in it is just being recicrulated over and over....As long as your temp's are holding steady I guess it wont hurt your pump, you know what I mean.... cavitatation...Had a hard time spitting that out ...How do you like doing animation ? Is it still fun or is it just a job now?....

ha ha -10c! yeah that’s weird unless you had one of those phase change units. I did read while I was looking for a explanation for the “temp3” issue that someone else’s readings were going into the negatives. I can’t remember what the solution to it was but I think it was ether the sensor was not supported by speedfan or it just needed a fresh install after a registry wipe. Did you check CPU-Z under mainboard for the sensor type and compare it to speedfans list on the web site? I’m pretty sure you would already know that but I just figured I’d mention it. Dang i wish i knew what it was because it goes from 15c to 27c so its gota be something.

Tomorrow I'll open the reservoir to the air and try to get the trapped air out of the system. But its a pain to remove it and im kinda tired to be messing with it tonight.


Anyways yeah I love my job. But its not always 3d animation. Alot of times a company comes to me and gives me a CAD model and says here make this look real. So I do allot of you know, modeling in 3d, lighting, texturing, and productions. I also do allot of motion graphics, like the effects you see in tv ad's with the text moving and all. I don't do to much hand drawn 2d for clients just because I guess its not to popular. The reaction I get from the public is its about the 3d right now.. The jobs usually require some graphic design skills so I have to be well rounded. As cool as that may or may not sound I'm trying to make the leap to the interactive games industry. I know I have the talent but allot of the time you just have to know someone to get your foot in the door. So right now I'm spending much of my time perfecting my skills in normal, secular, defuse mapping as well as ambient occlusion.
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ha ha -10c! yeah that’s weird unless you had one of those phase change units. I did read while I was looking for a explanation for the “temp3” issue that someone else’s readings were going into the negatives. I can’t remember what the solution to it was but I think it was ether the sensor was not supported by speedfan or it just needed a fresh install after a registry wipe. Did you check CPU-Z under mainboard for the sensor type and compare it to speedfans list on the web site? I’m pretty sure you would already know that but I just figured I’d mention it. Dang i wish i knew what it was because it goes from 15c to 27c so its gota be something.

Tomorrow I'll open the reservoir to the air and try to get the trapped air out of the system. But its a pain to remove it and im kinda tired to be messing with it tonight.


Anyways yeah I love my job. But its not always 3d animation. Alot of times a company comes to me and gives me a CAD model and says here make this look real. So I do allot of you know, modeling in 3d, lighting, texturing, and productions. I also do allot of motion graphics, like the effects you see in tv ad's with the text moving and all. I don't do to much hand drawn 2d for clients just because I guess its not to popular. The reaction I get from the public is its about the 3d right now.. The jobs usually require some graphic design skills so I have to be well rounded. As cool as that may or may not sound I'm trying to make the leap to the interactive games industry. I know I have the talent but allot of the time you just have to know someone to get your foot in the door. So right now I'm spending much of my time perfecting my skills in normal, secular, defuse mapping as well as ambient occlusion.
Yeah when I first started using Speed Fan a couple of years ago I looked around but never could find out for sure...Yeah be sure to wait till your feeling like messing with the res...I always try to take my time don't mess up or over look so much....The stepping would of been on top of your cpu,the revision is like rev4..rev6...just when they come out with new features they give it a new revision number some are better OCers than others....I can get by with out it ....Thanks though...I bet the game biz is hard to get into, would be such a good job you probably have to just about be born into it,good luck with it you never know you might just be in the right place at the right time!!! Quess it's about rack time for the night ...TTYL PSI thought you had listed your v-core as 1.42 my mistake...And I just like to collect info for my own use...Then I can compare different components to one another,it's just for my amusment...
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this is what i currently have:

Gateway - scrapped that piece of crap and just using the motherboard, its a Athlon 64 3400

ATI Radeon x850 agp pro- this card can be flashed to get 16 pipes, but im not sure its worth it.

Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS - Everyones standard.

Antec 500 SmartPower 2.0 - nice easy cable installing, reduces system clutter.

Cool Master Stacker 830 - amazing unit, ill be able to install everything ill need for good looks (nice and clean setup), air flow, and liquid cooling.

Big Water 745 - not too sure if this pump will be able to handle my loop. also scapping the single internal/external radiator.

VGA Water Block - i figured if i ever flash my x850 card to open up 4 additional pipelines that this would come in handy.



ill show ya what im going to be working with. should be here by either monday or tuesday, hopefully.

Aqua Bay M1 - lets me know level of liquid system and indicates there is water flow.

Aqua Bay M2 - this will replace my internal/external radiator from the Big Water 745, also frees up an ugly looking fan mount.

Aqua Bay M3 - ive read its best to have your tank above the pump for bleeding purposes. should help in looping everything together.

HardCano 12 - lets me know if my pump is failing or something is about to explode!

Two Lazer LED Cannon Blue - threw these in for looks

Cyclo RAM Cooler - looks cool and could be handy for OCing.

So far i havent had any problems installing the motherboard, power unit, or cards. ive noticed that the stacker has amazing amount of room to do just about anything. now if i can just figure out where all these plugs go :bang head

does anyone kmow if ill be able to carry out my loop with all these components. im scrapping the single internal/external radiator for the M2 to give it that clean look. i figured i can always just hook up that external 2 radiator anyways. i was planning on using 3/8" tubing but im not even sure if the pump will handle all this. can anyone help me out before i make a swimming pool out of my computer, lol.
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this is what i currently have:

Gateway - scrapped that piece of crap and just using the motherboard, its a Athlon 64 3400

ATI Radeon x850 agp pro- this card can be flashed to get 16 pipes, but im not sure its worth it.

Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS - Everyones standard.

Antec 500 SmartPower 2.0 - nice easy cable installing, reduces system clutter.

Cool Master Stacker 830 - amazing unit, ill be able to install everything ill need for good looks (nice and clean setup), air flow, and liquid cooling.

Big Water 745 - not too sure if this pump will be able to handle my loop. also scapping the single internal/external radiator.

VGA Water Block - i figured if i ever flash my x850 card to open up 4 additional pipelines that this would come in handy.



ill show ya what im going to be working with. should be here by either monday or tuesday, hopefully.

Aqua Bay M1 - lets me know level of liquid system and indicates there is water flow.

Aqua Bay M2 - this will replace my internal/external radiator from the Big Water 745, also frees up an ugly looking fan mount.

Aqua Bay M3 - ive read its best to have your tank above the pump for bleeding purposes. should help in looping everything together.

HardCano 12 - lets me know if my pump is failing or something is about to explode!

Two Lazer LED Cannon Blue - threw these in for looks

Cyclo RAM Cooler - looks cool and could be handy for OCing.

So far i havent had any problems installing the motherboard, power unit, or cards. ive noticed that the stacker has amazing amount of room to do just about anything. now if i can just figure out where all these plugs go :bang head

does anyone kmow if ill be able to carry out my loop with all these components. im scrapping the single internal/external radiator for the M2 to give it that clean look. i figured i can always just hook up that external 2 radiator anyways. i was planning on using 3/8" tubing but im not even sure if the pump will handle all this. can anyone help me out before i make a swimming pool out of my computer, lol.
Hi, I just went to try and find your pump spec's all I could find about it was that it has 400lph flow rate...The head height is what you really need to know when your setting up a multi-block set up like you are putting togather.. That's a good indicater, the higher the head height, usally measued at free flow, that's is with nothing connected,the more multiple things you can have connected and still get a decent lph flow rate....Is this all" 3/8 or 1/4"? The smaller the tube diameter the more restriction you will have and that makes for less flow....Sorry I couln't be of more help, I am not accuaitned with T-Take products....I like that Stacker case I started to get one to, very nice.....Like your ram cooler to nice if you have a window, nice bling factor there....
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