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Yes that was the right one I just meant that I was going to download it to later looks like a good one....Thanks for the links they look like good ones, last link didn't work for me ....I wanna see the sick one...Here is a link that will provide you with a lot of info on steppings and the OPN codes, really interesting stuff when you start looking into it..You can find your Tray-Core-Week-Stepping of manufacture, where your paticular slice of silicone came from ,closer to the center is better for OC....Oh yeah this place trys to open ads on you, it's never hurt anything on my rig though just pop-ups...... http://www.amdboard.com/amdid.html EDIT: just tried it doesnt work.. Just go to AMD Board and look for AMD I.D......
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Yes that was the right one I just meant that I was going to download it to later looks like a good one....Thanks for the links they look like good ones, last link didn't work for me ....I wanna see the sick one...Here is a link that will provide you with a lot of info on steppings and the OPN codes, really interesting stuff when you start looking into it..You can find your month-day and year of manufacture, where your paticular slice of silicone came from ,closer to the center is better for OC....Oh yeah this place trys to open ads on you, it's never hurt anything on my rig though just pop-ups...... http://www.amdboard.com/amdid.html EDIT: just tried it doesnt work.. Just go to AMD Board and look for AMD I.D......
Ok i'll take my time and check it out and try to figure it out

yeah that link to the nicer camera is slow for me. but theres a review to it so it gives you a idea. i think it runs around $299-400, so its up there...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0504/05042201canons2is.asp


this is basically what I got if you get it stock. I upgraded my lenses alot and got stuff like a SpeedLite 430EX flash and all.
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...ew/index.shtml


edit: wow it looks like the only way to manually find out the stepping and that info is to take off the water block and read it. Or take appart the prossesor! yikes thats rough
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Thank's for the links....That power shot is a very nice camera...Yours is really nice....I see you like Canons, I've always heard that they were good, nice to hear from someone who uses them for a living confirm it...Thanks...I don't think I would take off the WB to find it, but if you ever do remove your block, jot it down, you can find a world of knowledge on it...If the AMD board doesn't help answer your questions, I will be glad to try to explain or find more links...I know I have more somewhere in bookmarks that is just the first one....It's kind of dry reading, I found it interesting prsonally but I can see where some would not...You can also refine your search for specific cpu steppings such as are they best suited for water cooling or for sub-ambient where they were cut from in the tray etc.....Some are considered to be "Cold Bug's" meaning they do not work as well for Pelt's and such...Others are better suited for WC...You can spend a great deal of time studying these things and still not know it all....If we ever get your stat.s I will be more than happy to help you research it...TTYL
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$25.00 rebate on this till 9-29-06, looks nice.....tried to leave you a link, last 2 times I have tried they have been dead on me...Oh well it's at Zip Zoom Fly...It's a Thermaltake Armor Series va8000bws fulltower case w/side panel window black...Price is with shipping....Regular price $151.57 w/rebate it's $126.57...I really like the looks of this ...Zip Zoom Fly is a good E-tailer I have made a whole lot of orders from them with never a problem.. Good place to do business with...Srry Dig this was supposed to have been in the other Thread must be getting tired.....
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$25.00 rebate on this till 9-29-06, looks nice.....tried to leave you a link, last 2 times I have tried they have been dead on me...Oh well it's at Zip Zoom Fly...It's a Thermaltake Armor Series va8000bws fulltower case w/side panel window black...Price is with shipping....Regular price $151.57 w/rebate it's $126.57...I really like the looks of this ...Zip Zoom Fly is a good E-tailer I have made a whole lot of orders from them with never a problem.. Good place to do business with...Srry Dig this was supposed to have been in the other Thread must be getting tired.....
No worries man
nice thermaltake Armor, and the side window is always a plus and the blow hole looks cool! I kinda have this little vision of what a gaming and what a work breed PC should look like. I'd say the Chenming look purpose built and cases like the Aurora and Armor Series and Thermal take Shark look more fancy for Lan partys. That isn't a bad thing.

The info you gave me on the cpu data is pretty deep stuff. Its going to take me a while to figure out what im looking for and find out how to find it. It would be nice to know if I have a winner cpu or something that just got dropped off by the short bus.
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No worries man
nice thermaltake Armor, and the side window is always a plus and the blow hole looks cool! I kinda have this little vision of what a gaming and what a work breed PC should look like. I'd say the Chenming look purpose built and cases like the Aurora and Armor Series and Thermal take Shark look more fancy for Lan partys. That isn't a bad thing.

The info you gave me on the cpu data is pretty deep stuff. Its going to take me a while to figure out what im looking for and find out how to find it. It would be nice to know if I have a winner cpu or something that just got dropped off by the short bus.
Hey, Those Chemmings and Cheif's are built like a Mac truck they have to be one of the all time best value cases ever, absolutely great for mod work..If you dont mod they can look pretty dumpy.... The great thing about knowing what steppings to look for that WC well is you can find some of the best at retail prices....You can go to comp. stores and the like the AMD see all thr info you need thrugh the window in the box...Used to be you could find pretty good deals on E-Bay but most of the sellers now know which steppings to put a premium price on......... At That AMD Geeks I linked you to it's easy to look through the higher OC in the cpu you are looking for and get steppings that way...A lot are CPU-Z certified with the llink included so you know it is verified...Most list there method of cooling.... So if you can get one off the same tray with very close slice you can probably expect to see simular results...Did you see the thread down a couple of threads about naked core mounting questions? I cut off my IHS yesterday went real well It was a lot easier than I expeced...Crash has a great video tutorial in the gallery here, you might want to check it out...I think I'm going to go ahead and get a 3700 sandy and a 3000 or 3200Venice before the get low on stock and pop the top's on them to...I left a couple of pic's to show how lousy the TIM application was on them> It's hard to see[lousy quality pic's] but there is hardly any TIM right in the center of the chip sure glad I took it off now.... Long story short it makes me wonder if some of the differances in core attributes could be not just related to the silicone slice placement but also be due to the other mechanical attributtes such as the quality and or execution of the TIM....I need to go see if the AMD TIM application is mechanical or placed on them by hand....If it's mechanical that would throw a whole lot of variables into it.... Sorry I motor mouth so much getting to be like an old woman..
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Hey, Those Chemmings and Cheif's are built like a Mac truck they have to be one of the all time best value cases ever, absolutely great for mod work..If you dont mod they can look pretty dumpy.... The great thing about knowing what steppings to look for that WC well is you can find some of the best at retail prices....You can go to comp. stores and the like the AMD see all thr info you need thrugh the window in the box...Used to be you could find pretty good deals on E-Bay but most of the sellers now know which steppings to put a premium price on......... At That AMD Geeks I linked you to it's easy to look through the higher OC in the cpu you are looking for and get steppings that way...A lot are CPU-Z certified with the llink included so you know it is verified...Most list there method of cooling.... So if you can get one off the same tray with very close slice you can probably expect to see simular results...Did you see the thread down a couple of threads about naked core mounting questions? I cut off my IHS yesterday went real well It was a lot easier than I expeced...Crash has a great video tutorial in the gallery here, you might want to check it out...I think I'm going to go ahead and get a 3700 sandy and a 3000 or 3200Venice before the get low on stock and pop the top's on them to...I left a couple of pic's to show how lousy the TIM application was on them> It's hard to see[lousy quality pic's] but there is hardly any TIM right in the center of the chip sure glad I took it off now.... Long story short it makes me wonder if some of the differances in core attributes could be not just related to the silicone slice placement but also be due to the other mechanical attributtes such as the quality and or execution of the TIM....I need to go see if the AMD TIM application is mechanical or placed on them by hand....If it's mechanical that would throw a whole lot of variables into it.... Sorry I motor mouth so much getting to be like an old woman..
Yeah I bet you can drop the case 6ft and would only scratch it. But the internals, that might be a diffrent story. The Chenming's I got are strong enough for me to stand on and I weigh about 140. I'm puny but the cases sure are strong ha ha

Yeah I saw your thread and I really never though of taking off the plate and applying the block to the chip itself. I really don't know to much about that sorta thing so I didn't have any advice to add. But it sounds promising!

Where you able to get the data off you chip when you took the plate off and find out if its got some legs?

Right now I'm overclocking from 2.5 to 2.6 but I having to jump the volts up from around 1.44 to 1.55 just to keep it stable. The 3dmark06 scores are nice though. between the cpu OC and a small OC on my 7900gt ko from 511core and 771memory to 532 and 792memory. I went from 4452 to 4668. I think thats a crazy jump.

I'm trying to minimize the voltage to the cpu though but I may not be able to help it.

I was also able to hit 2.7ghz but I can't stablize it. But I think its because I can't find the flippin devider on my motherboard bios to change the oc on the ram. I don't think the ram can go anyhigher and thats whats destablizing the rig.
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Yeah I bet you can drop the case 6ft and would only scratch it. But the internals, that might be a diffrent story. The Chenming's I got are strong enough for me to stand on and I weigh about 140. I'm puny but the cases sure are strong ha ha

Yeah I saw your thread and I really never though of taking off the plate and applying the block to the chip itself. I really don't know to much about that sorta thing so I didn't have any advice to add. But it sounds promising!

Where you able to get the data off you chip when you took the plate off and find out if its got some legs?

Right now I'm overclocking from 2.5 to 2.6 but I having to jump the volts up from around 1.44 to 1.55 just to keep it stable. The 3dmark06 scores are nice though. between the cpu OC and a small OC on my 7900gt ko from 511core and 771memory to 532 and 792memory. I went from 4452 to 4668. I think thats a crazy jump.

I'm trying to minimize the voltage to the cpu though but I may not be able to help it.

I was also able to hit 2.7ghz but I can't stablize it. But I think its because I can't find the flippin devider on my motherboard bios to change the oc on the ram. I don't think the ram can go anyhigher and thats whats destablizing the rig.
The core-week-stepping are on the top of the heatsink....... Try looking in your bios under Dram Configuration next go down to the Max Memclock (mhz) there there should be a list of options like Auto - DDR200 DDR 266 and so on..It should be setting on auto if you haven't changed it from that...Now to divide your memory for this first step chose DDR 333 to the best of my understanding this will give you a5:4 memory divider... You can also drop your HTT Multi down from 5 to 4.5 and Cpu multi from 10 to 9.5 ..Only try each of these things one at a time save reboot and test for stability, with something like the OCCT utility, they have that here in the download section if you don't have it.You can keep lowering these things until you top out FSB...Try the ram divider first then go ahead and save go into windows and restart ...If this causes you any problems just go back into bios and reset it to AUTO or to DDR400..Try to keep memory speed around 200 if you have to go under 200 to get you highest FSB Using the 5:4 memory divider go ahead and do it cpu speed is king..Also try to keep your Htt Frequency close to 1000 by lowering the HTT multiplyer start by dropping it from 5 to 4.5...Changing ram divider and HTT multi. really isn't that bad a hit compared to the FSB overclock potential.If you haven't already found your max cpu,board and ram figures you should do that first...Now all this is just my noobish understanding of OC, so take it with a grain of salt to be safe........Taking the top off the IHS's can potentially lower the temp's from 0 to 15c or so...If you have a mobo and ram that dont limit your OC the chip has a lot better chance of much higer OC by removing a lot more of the heat...I'm leaving you a pic. of the top of a IHS, this is the top of the cpu where cpu & waterrblock meet....Hope your still working on your bubbles...leaving a pic showing core-week - stepping guide...PS-I got a LBBWE 0550EPEW most of these that I have been able to find any info on with a slice close to mine have only been hitting around 2.7-2.8, rev. e6 3800 are not known for good OC anyway...I went ahead and got one any way in case I find out I cant oc worth a hoot.They have a 12x multiplier and 2.4ghz to start with...It was the luck of the draw I just ordered it from a E-tailer......I don't know where I got this pic. from on the net, if it belongs to someone let me know so I can give you credit for it..ThanksEDIT:Had to remove photo remembered where it came from....Look here if interestedhttp://amdgeeks.net/insertstepping
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The core-week-stepping are on the top of the heatsink....... Try looking in your bios under Dram Configuration next go down to the Max Memclock (mhz) there there should be a list of options like Auto - DDR200 DDR 266 and so on..It should be setting on auto if you haven't changed it from that...Now to divide your memory for this first step chose DDR 333 to the best of my understanding this will give you a5:4 memory divider... You can also drop your HTT Multi down from 5 to 4.5 and Cpu multi from 10 to 9.5 ..Only try each of these things one at a time save reboot and test for stability, with something like the OCCT utility, they have that here in the download section if you don't have it.You can keep lowering these things until you top out FSB...Try the ram divider first then go ahead and save go into windows and restart ...If this causes you any problems just go back into bios and reset it to AUTO or to DDR400..Try to keep memory speed around 200 if you have to go under 200 to get you highest FSB Using the 5:4 memory divider go ahead and do it cpu speed is king..Also try to keep your Htt Frequency close to 1000 by lowering the HTT multiplyer start by dropping it from 5 to 4.5...Changing ram divider and HTT multi. really isn't that bad a hit compared to the FSB overclock potential.If you haven't already found your max cpu,board and ram figures you should do that first...Now all this is just my noobish understanding of OC, so take it with a grain of salt to be safe........Taking the top off the IHS's can potentially lower the temp's from 0 to 15c or so...If you have a mobo and ram that dont limit your OC the chip has a lot better chance of much higer OC by removing a lot more of the heat...I'm leaving you a pic. of the top of a IHS, this is the top of the cpu where cpu & waterrblock meet....Hope your still working on your bubbles...leaving a pic showing core-week - stepping guide...PS-I got a LBBWE 0550EPEW most of these that I have been able to find any info on with a slice close to mine have only been hitting around 2.7-2.8, rev. e6 3800 are not known for good OC anyway...I went ahead and got one any way in case I find out I cant oc worth a hoot.They have a 12x multiplier and 2.4ghz to start with...It was the luck of the draw I just ordered it from a E-tailer......I don't know where I got this pic. from on the net, if it belongs to someone let me know so I can give you credit for it..ThanksEDIT:Had to remove photo remembered where it came from....Look here if interestedhttp://amdgeeks.net
today I gota get some work done so i can't mess around with the pc to much, but my HTT is at 4x already and the cpu multi x10 FSB at 260 for 2.6ghz. I think i finally found the ram devider. Right now its at 200 and the highest setting I can go is 250. The ram I got should be pretty overclockable. But what I don't get is having set at 200 is it running at 200mhz? Or is there little formula that gives you the actual speed in Mhz.

Only thing I can do to get the cpu stable anought to run prime95 is give the core a 1.45 start up and a 6.6% over vid. That comes to 1.55v

in cpu-z it says at 2.6ghz with a 260fsb the ram is running 216? sigh......I really wish all manufactures would name things the same in there bios or use the same incramental numbers. I understand enough to OC "some". But theres still much i need to learn to go any farther.

PS: i'll try to get a pic taken of the bubbles tonight and post it. Its mostly fizz but it looks like the tubes are completely filled now
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today I gota get some work done so i can't mess around with the pc to much, but my HTT is at 4x already and the cpu multi x10 FSB at 260 for 2.6ghz. I think i finally found the ram devider. Right now its at 200 and the highest setting I can go is 250. The ram I got should be pretty overclockable. But what I don't get is having set at 200 is it running at 200mhz? Or is there little formula that gives you the actual speed in Mhz.

Only thing I can do to get the cpu stable anought to run prime95 is give the core a 1.45 start up and a 6.6% over vid. That comes to 1.55v

in cpu-z it says at 2.6ghz with a 260fsb the ram is running 216? sigh......I really wish all manufactures would name things the same in there bios or use the same incramental numbers. I understand enough to OC "some". But theres still much i need to learn to go any farther.

PS: i'll try to get a pic taken of the bubbles tonight and post it. Its mostly fizz but it looks like the tubes are completely filled now
Hey glad to hear the tubes are starting to clear out..I'm going to try to explain some of my understanding on ram deviders, still sounds pretty much like Greek to me..If this does not help any let me know I will try to find you some links.....200mhz =1:1 ratio or ddr400........166mhz = 2/3 ratio or ddr 333.....100mhz = 1:2 ratio or ddr 200.......O.K. That was the easy part now for the ugly part the formula.....Ram divider = CPU mutiplyer divided by ram ratio then round off to the next whole number....2.4ghz w/ram at 200mhz try this..240ghz, 10x multiplyer ram at 166mhz = 2400mhz.....I barely understand any of this myself, so for both our sakes I will find more info later......Right now I have to go do a few things hope that helps a little for time being.....TTYL
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