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Actually, I'm one of the ones that votes for overkill. xD.

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Yeah, TwoCables tried to fight the good fight but sadly the E-peensters shouted him down.

Yeah I hear you, if you already have PSU's that are overkill though I feel it's different to buying PSU's that are overkill. I suppose if you have the money though an over rated PSU should last longer and be quieter than buying an adequate PSU. Certainly if you plan to upgrade in future there is no harm in overshooting. That's what happened to me though and now I ended up with overkill lol.

I bought the AX1200 for the workstation because when my old 550W died I thought I might be going with a 2/4P setup soon. Later on I found that hexes would be all my tools could use.

The 2nd AX1200 was pretty much perfect for the 990x + 3x480's all overclocked (1150W at the wall under gaming, more under stress tests)

I was thinking about buying an AX650 for the water cooling bench, but didn't really want to when I didn't need it (I could just wait 2 months after all to be done with the CPU block testing). The NEX1500 is nice though because it means I don't have to change PSU mid test (which conceivably could slightly change results), plus it enables that elusive 4th GPU thumb.gif It also means I can game once in a while (as soon as Corsair send me that memory). Sharing one AX1200 for two computers would have been awkward because the linux workstation never reboots and the testbench reboots *all* the time.

It does mean that the gaming rig will only have a 560 and a 360 for cooling though as the 2nd 560 is being used in the water cooling bench - but I think that should be fine. I was running the 990x/3xgtx480's on 2x360 with only 5 fans working for a while wink.gif

If I run all three rigs at once though I think I may end up throwing a breaker rolleyes.gif
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Yeah, TwoCables tried to fight the good fight but sadly the E-peensters shouted him down.
Actually, I'm one of the ones that votes for overkill. xD.
sozo.gif
I checked the thread when the war was ongoing and thought about giving some support to twocables but meh, they wouldn't have changed their minds no matter what I would have posted... Every PSU thread ends up being a frigging warzone of epeeners vs. the smart ones tongue.gif

So stren, did you contact EVGA already? I wonder how long it'll take for you to get your new PSU... That's one sweet price though, isn't the NEX1500W worth something like 400 bucks?
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sozo.gif
I checked the thread when the war was ongoing and thought about giving some support to twocables but meh, they wouldn't have changed their minds no matter what I would have posted... Every PSU thread ends up being a frigging warzone of epeeners vs. the smart ones tongue.gif
So stren, did you contact EVGA already? I wonder how long it'll take for you to get your new PSU... That's one sweet price though, isn't the NEX1500W worth something like 400 bucks?


I guess I should have re-phrased that. I vote for overkill psu's, not overkill systems. I think it's stupid to be pushing psu's to their utmost limits when you can get a more powerful one for almost no more.

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I checked the thread when the war was ongoing and thought about giving some support to twocables but meh, they wouldn't have changed their minds no matter what I would have posted... Every PSU thread ends up being a frigging warzone of epeeners vs. the smart ones tongue.gif
So stren, did you contact EVGA already? I wonder how long it'll take for you to get your new PSU... That's one sweet price though, isn't the NEX1500W worth something like 400 bucks?

Yeah I think attitudes take a while to be adjusted, for a while there were some bad PSU's out there, so now people are very conservative. Plus people love to tell others to spend more than they need to lol

Yeah it comes with individually sleeved heatshrinkless cables so I would have thought at least $400, maybe 450. Not sure. Pretty sweet though thumb.gif
     
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I'll drop a few thoughts on the PSU discussion...

I believe in logical overkill, not crazy overkill. From 0 to 30% load they are usually silent and cool, from 30 to 60% they are usually slightly warm with a quiet hum fan noise, from 60 to 90% they are usually really warm and audibly moving some air, and from 90 to 100% they're a raging inferno. I shoot for my max load to be about 60-75% of PSU max load.

Your PSU most certainly can affect your CPU temps. I've personally seen my CPU drop 6-8C by going from a generic brand at about 75% load to a Corsair Bronze at about 50% load. It's not to do with too much or too little power; it's all about the voltage fluctuations. Some PSUs are better at keeping voltages constant while varying loads. You can get some data about different models from http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx.
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I guess I should have re-phrased that. I vote for overkill psu's, not overkill systems. I think it's stupid to be pushing psu's to their utmost limits when you can get a more powerful one for almost no more.

Well it can be a good amount more - I mean a quality 850W is ~170 while a quality 1200 is more like 270, if you pay tax too then that's $110. I guess compared to a 3K rig the difference is small, but 100 bucks is 100 bucks you know what I mean?

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I guess I should have re-phrased that. I vote for overkill psu's, not overkill systems. I think it's stupid to be pushing psu's to their utmost limits when you can get a more powerful one for almost no more.
I guess I should have re-phrased that too... I do understand people not wanting to buy a PSU rated at exactly their power consumption, but there's a not-so-fine line between safeguard-overkill and stupid-overkill, if you get what I mean. My rig pulls like 300W (maybe a tad over) but I didn't want to buy a 400W PSU, so I got a 500W one that could probably almost run 7870's in crossfire (it's really a 550W unit afaik).
So that kind of "overkill" I encourage, but the dude in the thread in question was getting 2 680's, even with all the stuff he wouldn't have needed anything over 650W, so even 750W or 850W would have been a big overkill.
Let's just say that I understand your point of view but I do not agree with it, at least not completely.

And even if the budget is like 6k, why should he spend the extra 50-100 bucks on a bigger psu? I'm sure he could think of some other way to spend 100 bucks.

Oh damn dem radiator and fans look awesome, delicious combo biggrin.gif
Edited by Blizlake - 8/4/12 at 12:45pm
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I guess I should have re-phrased that too... I do understand people not wanting to buy a PSU rated at exactly their power consumption, but there's a not-so-fine line between safeguard-overkill and stupid-overkill, if you get what I mean. My rig pulls like 300W (maybe a tad over) but I didn't want to buy a 400W PSU, so I got a 500W one that could probably almost run 7870's in crossfire (it's really a 550W unit afaik).
So that I encourage, but the dude in the thread in question was getting 2 680's, even with all the stuff he wouldn't have needed anything over 650W, so even 750W or 850W would have been a big overkill.
Let's just say that I understand your point of view but I do not agree with it, at least not completely.
And even if the budget is like 6k, why should he spend the extra 50-100 bucks on a bigger psu? I'm sure he could think of some other way to spend 100 bucks.
Oh damn dem radiator and fans look awesome, delicious combo biggrin.gif
I'm confused... 100w (CPU) + 200 (680) + 200 (680) + 20 (Mobo) + 20 (fans) + 20 (2 hdds) + 20 (blu-ray, LED, USB peripherals, etc) = ~600 watts ... I wouldn't get anything less than a 750w and would probably want a 850w just to make sure it didn't have to work.
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