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I've seen a lot wider spread on Ivy max overclocks than on sandy. Pretty much every sandy did 4.8 4.7-5ghz on what I consider 24/7-safe volts (under 1.45v), but on Ivy I've seen max clocks go from 4.4 to 4.9ghz which I find a bit weird. I'll have to agree with you on the 3570k being the one which makes (more) sense, those things run at least a bit cooler. rolleyes.gif
But at this point I'm seriously thinking about going with 3820+extreme4 instead of ivy+sabertooth since ivy was a letdown and I honestly hate the tiny IHS which makes heatsinks less efficient. I want more than 20% of the base of the cooler to be in contact with the chip tongue.gif PCIe3.0 won't probably make that big a difference to me since I'll never be able to afford a high-end gpu which would eat that much bandwith, but since it's out there I dont see the point in getting a rig that's just 2.0 compatible (if I didnt want 3.0, I'd just go sandy and be happy).

Have you reviewed your review yet stren, I'd really love to hear your thoughts on swedish design thumb.gif
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Not for Nvidia, yet.
The 690 uses pcie 3 on SB-E headscratch.gif
Nvidia hasnt released the drivers that would let the cards utilize PCIe 3.0 on X79, IIRC.
Edited by Blizlake - 5/4/12 at 11:12am
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Not for Nvidia, yet.

Processor not GPU tongue.gif and the GTX680 and 690 are PCI-E 3.0 compliant.
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I WISH my Sandy chips did 4.8 @ 1.45.
I'd say 4.7 @ 1.45 is more common.
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I WISH my Sandy chips did 4.8 @ 1.45.
I'd say 4.7 @ 1.45 is more common.
Fine csm, since you're so cool I'll just edit my post. tongue.gif
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Vega has his 680s running PCI3.0 on his SB-E rig, iirc it's just a reg key that has to be changed.

Edit: Found an article about it.
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1509861&mpage=1
Edited by itskerby - 5/4/12 at 11:34am
     
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Vega has his 680s running PCI3.0 on his SB-E rig, iirc it's just a reg key that has to be changed.
Edit: Found an article about it.
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1509861&mpage=1

Yup I think they supported it in the early driver, and then took it out of the later ones for some reason. It'll come back officially at some point.
     
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I've seen a lot wider spread on Ivy max overclocks than on sandy. Pretty much every sandy did 4.8 4.7-5ghz on what I consider 24/7-safe volts (under 1.45v), but on Ivy I've seen max clocks go from 4.4 to 4.9ghz which I find a bit weird. I'll have to agree with you on the 3570k being the one which makes (more) sense, those things run at least a bit cooler. rolleyes.gif
But at this point I'm seriously thinking about going with 3820+extreme4 instead of ivy+sabertooth since ivy was a letdown and I honestly hate the tiny IHS which makes heatsinks less efficient. I want more than 20% of the base of the cooler to be in contact with the chip tongue.gif PCIe3.0 won't probably make that big a difference to me since I'll never be able to afford a high-end gpu which would eat that much bandwith, but since it's out there I dont see the point in getting a rig that's just 2.0 compatible (if I didnt want 3.0, I'd just go sandy and be happy).
Have you reviewed your review yet stren, I'd really love to hear your thoughts on swedish design thumb.gif
Nvidia hasnt released the drivers that would let the cards utilize PCIe 3.0 on X79, IIRC.

I've been slacking - spent most of yesterday tidying up the wires behind the case and working on the clocks. It will be folding for the rest of the week to help determine stability.

I think I'll probably remake the 2nd half of the video on monday when I have some extra fans coming in. So maybe I'll post the unboxing at least.

Generally I like the case, it's well thought out. The only annoyances I had were:

- they spent time sleeving things to black out the insides of the case as much as possible, however then they used white connectors and the heatshrink doesn't go all the way to the connector
- where is the window? Why black it out entirely on the inside if there is no window?
- I swear side panels and top were screwed in with thumb screws, but they no longer work, it's possible that they have similar looking thumbscrews with different threads. and that I've now used those somewhere else rolleyes.gif
- the doors are a bit of a pain to get on and off, I often end up with one flying off because I put so much pressure on it to get it off. I miss my caselabs hinges biggrin.gif
- i wish there was a bit more room in the back for tidying cables, it's better than a lot of cheap cases, but it still makes it hard to fit the door on.
- I wish the top was metal the plastic feels a bit flimsy
- Although I like the white contrasting fans, I don't personally like the white HD caddys, they look like more of an afterthought
- the tube routing grommets for external water cooling are really small and awkwardly located. They should really have been placed somewhere else.

Given the price though I think it's good, well designed and thought out. Most of those complaints are pretty minor. So I'd definitely recommend it for a mini atx air build in that price point. It makes me feel like doing a mini water cooled build in it. Front mounted 240 rad, top mounted 280 rad, bottom mounted 120 smile.gif
     
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Pretty much my thoughts too smile.gif All our work PC's are built in Define mini', which honestly feels a bit better than the arc series does. Both the define and arc are great cases though. I've got one question though (as I've only seen the midi live): Are the front fans mounted to the front panel with clips like on midi?
How about you talk your friend to get some watercooling gear for the case ? tongue.gif
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Pretty much my thoughts too smile.gif All our work PC's are built in Define mini', which honestly feels a bit better than the arc series does. Both the define and arc are great cases though. I've got one question though (as I've only seen the midi live): Are the front fans mounted to the front panel with clips like on midi?
How about you talk your friend to get some watercooling gear for the case ? tongue.gif

Yeha - the defines don't have the options for top mounted rads like the H100 though. The fans are mounted with clips yes.

To be honest I think phase change would work better for this cpu wink.gif

oh and yes there are two thumb screws that look identical, but one is 1mm longer and has a different thread. Why would you do this?
     
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swedish design thumb.gif

QFT. wink.gif
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