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post #32 of 147
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post

Notice how he said 1155 quads,a i5 or i7 K CPU shouldn't have an IGP when it should have larger cores.

So the quads aren't deserving of the fastest hardware accelerated transcoding available right now? (Quick Sync)
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Unlike the battle with ATi and Nvidia where they share the same boat, AMD vs Intel is very different. AMD is borrowing their boat and the price is not up to them while Intel has its own boat. I can see how AMD has hard time to catch up when the lower the manufacturing process gets its harder to get high yield which result a 32nm costing more then 45nm.

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So the quads aren't deserving of the fastest hardware accelerated transcoding available right now? (Quick Sync)

Which is fine for people transcoding for their iPods and 720p TV's, but CPU transcoding trumps hardware-accelerated in terms of quality. Fast does not equal high quality.
 
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Why not AMD outsource to Intel with manufacturing with their CPUs?
I kid, I kid

this is the dumbest idea ever...
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in some aspect amd is at the forefront (gpu )i think amd need to step away from plain cpu and integrate cpu to their gpu techno .i think cpu arent neeeded anymore ati (amd)could mod a bit the gpu so that it could do both job effectly and way faster and cheaper then actual cpu since there is so much power in a gpu .
oh amd might need lightpeak to acheive that or a completely new way to trnasfer data but gpu can do both!

that could be interesting, but stil what AMD needs is a total new tecnology, leave AM3+ socket maybe, and get a new one, something that could really put them on par with intel
This is exactly what I've been thinking; if I had to guess, AMD would leave socket AM3+ to die, and come back with their FM1 socket (the one where they are doing die shrinks of their previous architecture if I'm not mistaking).

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tl;dr: MOAR COARZ
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That'd be awesome if that's the case, but he could just be referring to TSMC's proven manufacturing record vs GF.
EDIT: However, if you read the full article, to me it sounds like Read is saying that you don't always need a smaller node, giving the example of how Brazos is 40nm and has sold over 20 million. This makes me think that he wants to focus more on the architecture and less on the node-shrinking, which would be pretty much the exact opposite of what has happened in the last half a decade for AMD. That way, architectural improvements will be the forefront for R&D and we'll avoid another Bulldozer situation - that is, a new architecture just sitting in the background being slowly developed.
Honestly it sounds like Intel's tick-tock, but without the tick (node shrink). Perhaps more of a TICK-tock-tock-tock, that is a larger tick that may even skip various node sizes? (like 32/28nm for Brazos). Like I said, this would be the opposite of what they've been doing, which was more of a tick-tick-tick-TOCK. (lots of die-shinks since the Athlon64, but not much architectural improvement, hence the MOAR COARZ thing, and even Fusion to a lesser extent)

I hope you are right, it's time for AMD to get smart, since they are too small to brute force their competition with Intel. I don't think Piledriver will be that much different from Bulldozer, but I might survive on my Phenom II 955 till Steamroller. (Yes, that will probably require a new motherboard anyway, but I like supporting the underdog. No flames please!)
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