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post #61 of 71
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Turn off eyefinity and you will still have your side monitors flashing if you overclock the card even a couple MHz. I would love to own one of these, but AMD seems quite determined to make me a nVidia customer.

My buddy uses Eyefinity (3 1680x1050 displays) for gaming (the 1 who got me hooked on AMD), uses a short-cut key to enable & disable Eyefinity. He's using an OC'ed 6970 and when Eyefinity is disabled, he has no flickering/flashing monitors while in Windows desktop extended mode. So until I visibly see this problem you are speaking of, I'm not rattled by it. I'm not saying what you are speaking is false...This is the 1st time I've heard about this problem. Guess I'll do a Google search on this to see how often this was occurring. Thanks for mentioning this smile.gif
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Do you even know how to read, seriously? Where in my post did I talk about anything else than the 7970 or the GTX580? And I'm deffinitely not ignorant at all. The benchmarks we have seen show a flop of a card, and you better understand what this tech jump means (from 40nm to 28nm) because you deffinitely have no clue.
From a HD4870 to a HD5870 we saw a performance increase of a 60-80% depending on the test whereas power consumption was reduced. And we went from 55nm to 40nm. The card we are talking about is the 7970....which comparing the jump we had then and the one we had now then yes, its OBJECTIVELY a flop. The performance/power-consumption ratio has poorly improved for what was exepcted of it.
Is it remarkable that the 7970 beats the GTX580 by such small margin? Are you kidding me? The next high-end single-card has ALWAYS beaten the last one, and normally by a bigger margin. This 7970 having such small increase in performance/power-consumption better mean that those 28nm need to be fine-tuned because, otherwise, there won't be much of a point to fully upgrade this round. rolleyes.gif

Maybe you can make a better card..... let us know when its done. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
My post was about fanboys in general, not what you said.
The card cannot be a flop, it trumped the 580, this means all cards below it flop as well kookoo.gif
I can understand that its not the first time that there has been a die shrink and bigger improvements, but it is the first time they've used 28nm.
Just like the 5870 had a refresh (6970) So will the 7970...
DONT COMPARE THE CARD TO THE 580.......COMPARE IT TO THE 6970 ! and then say it flopped.
Seriously if its not a fanboy, its an extremist critic wth.gif

You don't seem to understand the whole picture. The basic indicator for any generation is the performance/powerconsumption ratio and for most generations it has been pretty much even for ATI and NVIDIA.

So, the fact that we have increased only a 40% this time deeply disappoints me because, like I said, last time we had such jump (HD4870 vs HD5870) we reached something like a 60-70%.

And don't get me wrong, NVIDIA even did it worst with its first iteration of Fermi, but the overall increase was much better then that It seems to be now; and in the end its that ratio the one that counts for one reason only: we are limited by power. And because of that, because we are stuck at 300W, the higher that ratio gets the better the cards will be.

Also, why should I compare the 7970 to a 6970? Still, the fact remains the same, the increase in perf/power is poor, and I just hope this is caused by the low quality yields because if its not then....too bad.
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Also, why should I compare the 7970 to a 6970? Still, the fact remains the same, the increase in perf/power is poor...

Not when using for Eyefinity upsidedwnsmiley.gif See for yourself... HardOCP 7970 Review thumb.gif
post #64 of 71
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Also, why should I compare the 7970 to a 6970? Still, the fact remains the same, the increase in perf/power is poor, and I just hope this is caused by the low quality yields because if its not then....too bad.

previous card to the new card, hardly suprising?
40-70% is pretty great numbers.
and nvidia wont be able to do much more sicne 28nm starts to get the power and die size hard to balance.
it draw less power than 580 and is faster.
kinda makes it for me.
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i may skip this gen :/ as my EPIC sig can survive more thumb.gif i will upgrade 2013 if 2012 is not the end of the world
     
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post #66 of 71
My 560 Ti in SLI beats an overclocked 7970 so no need to upgrade to this card at all.

However seeing tesselation improvement, this card will show massive improvement in every game wich will make a massive gap show compaired to any other card?
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I'm keeping my to 5870's for now. they play all my games on max settings smile.gif I'm waiting for the AMD Radeon HD 8970 when ever they come out biggrin.gif
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post #68 of 71
not jelly. I expected way more performance.
great if you're on eyefinity and need the bandwitdh which is pretty boss
great in terms of tessellation

but I can buy another card and still be less than a 7970 CFC while still most likely killing a 7970 CFx in Oc.

skipping this Gen. ONWARDS TO 89XX!

I wonder how much it will improve post release drivers
     
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My 560 Ti in SLI beats an overclocked 7970 so no need to upgrade to this card at all.

Of course not. But when you add another 7970, now that's a different story. But I'd wait till the prices drop.
    
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hmm... it may be in my best interests just to CF my 6950... try to find another one that will unlock and OC it...

my main concern is with the issues that CF seems to have, all over the place...
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