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[Hardwarecanucks]HD 7970 PCI-E 3.0 vs PCI-E 2.0 comparison

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Benchmarking the Benefits of PCI-E 3.0

One of the points about the Southern Islands products that are bound to come up in countless marketing documents is their use of the new PCI-E 3.0 specification. Much like the switch between PCI-E 1.1 to 2.0, this certification incorporates several new features that could prove to be hugely beneficial to graphics card manufacturers. First and foremost among the improvements is a brand new encoding scheme that helps it effectively double the bandwidth of PCI-E 2.0 to 8 GT/s.

While current generation single and dual GPU cards still fit well within the bandwidth limitations of PCI-E 2.0 x16 slots, Tahiti’s creators will be trumpeting PCI-E 3.0 to anyone within earshot. However, does it really make a difference in gaming scenarios? More importantly, will upgrading to a PCI-E 3.0 motherboard allow the HD 7970 to pull further ahead of the competition? To find out, we used an ASUS P9X79 motherboard (which allows users to switch between Gen 2 and Gen 3 PCI-E functionality in its BIOS) along with our usual stable of games and benchmarks. To ensure outside factors didn’t play into the equation, the highest resolution and image quality settings were used in every game.

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Starting things off was 3DMark 11 and the differences between a Gen2 and Gen3 interface was effectively nil. From the perspective of 3DMark, it really doesn’t seem to care whether the HD 7970 runs on a higher bandwidth interface or not.

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The results couldn’t be any clearer: the HD 7970 doesn’t benefit in any way from a PCI-E 3.0 link to the CPU. Granted, there were a few small increases (and decreases) here and there but these are a result of averaging out the results from multiple manual benchmark runs and fall well within our margin of error. So to the relief of gamers and reviewers alike (hey, we still love our X58 test systems!), a next generation PCI-E interface isn’t needed to get the most out of the Tahiti XT core.

However there are a few caveats that should be mentioned. Even though a single HD 7970 may not saturate a PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot, things could change drastically once two of these cards are installed into a Z68 motherboard which uses a dual 8x setup for Crossfire and SLI. Things will likely get even more complicated when AMD’s new dual GPU product is released in the first half of 2012. We’ll likely revisit this topic throughout 2012 but for the time being, rest assured knowing that AMD’s HD 7970 is in no way limited by current PCI-E certifications.


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Edited by RawFoodPhil - 12/27/11 at 10:51pm
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Great article. Now everyone can breathe easy. smile.gif
Edited by Magn - 12/22/11 at 5:30am
    
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Very nice review! I was already planning on switching to a PCI-E 3.0 capable motherboard. Thank god that someone post this review! For now, I will still use my MSI 890 FXA GD70! thumb.gif
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PCI-E 3 VGA and motherboard with PCIE-3 support is not enough. You also need a CPU with PCIE-3 micro-controller. These are 3rd generation i7 CPU's, for example
http://ark.intel.com/products/65525/Intel-Core-i7-3770T-Processor-%288M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz%29

And your MB is "Intel Socket 2011 for 2nd Generation Core i7 Processors" - this is why I'm 100% sure that you used CPU with PCI-E 2.0. So this test is worthless frown.gif


Would be nice to see test results with full PCI-E 3 complectation smile.gif
Edited by KOMOKHEPBOB - 8/15/12 at 11:56pm
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Great article. Now everyone can breathe easy. smile.gif


It's not really enlightening, some have known this for a long while. If you have a pcie 3 rig you can simply switch the pcie 3 off in bios and run a bench to see no gain, or no loss. wink.gif

Another review.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html
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I see they didnt test the difference on an 8x link though. if you are strapped for space like i am i ended up putting my 7970s in the 8x slots and because its 3.0 i get the same performance wheee.gif
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Awesome post! i will have asus 7970 DC II with my sabertooth 990FX soon !!!! =D
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Found this extremely indepth test comparrison between PCIe 2 and PCIe 3 using Single, 2 way and 3 way for BOTH GTX680 and AMD cards. Great article and very thorough

HardOCP PCIe 2.0 VS PCIe 3.0 on both Nvidia and AMD cards
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Thanks for a review smile.gif
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Good to know as I might be getting a 7970 in the near future.
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