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post #21 of 51
on some games yes, like bf3 and crysis 2
post #22 of 51
There isn't a bottleneck with the OPs setup. Crossfire 5850 are the correct paired GPUs for his CPU.

OP hasn't said what game he plays or the resolution. How can someone automatically determine that there is a bottleneck? Do you automatically take a prescription given by a doctor who examined you over the phone?
post #23 of 51
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Originally Posted by flyin15sec View Post

There isn't a bottleneck with the OPs setup. Crossfire 5850 are the correct paired GPUs for his CPU.
OP hasn't said what game he plays or the resolution. How can someone automatically determine that there is a bottleneck? Do you automatically take a prescription given by a doctor who examined you over the phone?
According to all the evidence and the link I posted the 5850s will be heavily bottlenecked by the X4.

It's quite obvious his setup will bottleneck in many modern games such as BF2, Crysis 2, Skyrim, Starcraft, etc.

I'll spend another minute finding the exact setup bottlenecking....

Here's the 955 bottlenecking the 6870s in CFX, comparable to the 5850s.
Edited by openureyes - 12/23/11 at 2:46pm
post #24 of 51
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According to all the evidence and the link I posted the 5850s will be heavily bottlenecked by the X4.
It's quite obvious his setup will bottleneck in many modern games such as BF2, Crysis 2, Skyrim, Starcraft, etc.
I'll spend another minute finding the exact setup bottlenecking....
Here's the 955 bottlenecking the 6870s in CFX, comparable to the 5850s.

Looks like you failed to notice that user was running stock clock on the cpu.
post #25 of 51
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Originally Posted by openureyes View Post

According to all the evidence and the link I posted the 5850s will be heavily bottlenecked by the X4.
It's quite obvious his setup will bottleneck in many modern games such as BF2, Crysis 2, Skyrim, Starcraft, etc.
I'll spend another minute finding the exact setup bottlenecking....
Here's the 955 bottlenecking the 6870s in CFX, comparable to the 5850s.

Many have already mention that there is always some component that will bottleneck a system. We know that Intel processors will allow video cards to stretch their legs a bit more. This IS all well known and documented.

But the biggest question is this, the OP did NOT state his resolution or game. How do you know his setup is being bottlenecked by his CPU?

Being bottlenecked is relative to the gamer. I will use myself as an example.

I always use v-sync on in all my games. I play currently: WoW, L4D2, Defense Grid, CoH at 1080. On hold/future MTG 2012, Skyrim, SCII and Shogun2. I am happy with 60fps in all the games I play. Are you still going to tell me that the OPs setup will bottleneck these games at my preferred 60fps?

No, of course not. There is no bottleneck for me, yet it's still the same equipment that you just said "will be HEAVILY Bottlenecked". Before flinging around the word "Bottleneck", just because it's an X4, you should fully define the parameter of what the OP is trying to achieve.

In the end if a person is not happy with the performance of an X4 and 2 HD5850 then certainly, throw money at it.
Edited by flyin15sec - 12/23/11 at 4:45pm
post #26 of 51
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Many have already mention that there is always some component that will bottleneck a system. We know that Intel processors will allow video cards to stretch their legs a bit more. This IS all well known and documented.
But the biggest question is this, the OP did NOT state his resolution or game. How do you know his setup is being bottlenecked by his CPU?
Being bottlenecked is relative to the gamer. I will use myself as an example.
I always use v-sync on in all my games. I play currently: WoW, L4D2, Defense Grid, CoH at 1080. On hold/future MTG 2012, Skyrim, SCII and Shogun2. I am happy with 60fps in all the games I play. Are you still going to tell me that the OPs setup will bottleneck these games at my preferred 60fps?
No, of course not. There is no bottleneck for me, yet it's still the same equipment that you just said "will be HEAVILY Bottlenecked". Before flinging around the word "Bottleneck", just because it's an X4, you should fully define the parameter of what the OP is trying to achieve.
In the end if a person is not happy with the performance of an X4 and 2 HD5850 then certainly, throw money at it.
He's obviously at 1920x1080 or lower; nobody buys a $1000 2560x1600 monitor and uses 5850s....

In games like Skyrim and Starcraft the X4 will heavily bottleneck the 5850s.

As we can see here, the Phenom II bottlenecks a single 5870 even at 1024x768:
500
post #27 of 51
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Originally Posted by openureyes View Post

He's obviously at 1920x1080 or lower; nobody buys a $1000 2560x1600 monitor and uses 5850s....
In games like Skyrim and Starcraft the X4 will heavily bottleneck the 5850s.
As we can see here, the Phenom II bottlenecks a single 5870 even at 1024x768:

No one is disputing that an Intel is a better performer at gaming.

What I like to know is, how do you KNOW that the OP is talking about Starcraft II @1024 x 768?
post #28 of 51
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He's obviously at 1920x1080 or lower; nobody buys a $1000 2560x1600 monitor and uses 5850s....
In games like Skyrim and Starcraft the X4 will heavily bottleneck the 5850s.
As we can see here, the Phenom II bottlenecks a single 5870 even at 1024x768:
500

That's because starcraft 2 is a CPU intensive game. So naturally it's going to get lower frames. In that case, you could say the i5-2500k is even being bottlenecked. No matter what game you play, there's always going to be some type of bottleneck. He'll see increases in performance by getting a 2500k, its not because the phenom was bottlenecking him, its more so because the 2500k would have alot more pull on cpu intensive games. Phenom ii x4 is a good balance with CF 5850's..he should have no problems pretty much playing anything he wants...and I'm sure he doesn't have any issues playing anything he wants. He likely just has an upgrade itch.
    
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post #29 of 51
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No one is disputing that an Intel is a better performer at gaming.
What I like to know is, how do you KNOW that the OP is talking about Starcraft II @1024 x 768?
I don't, but you specifically mentioned Starcraft as an example where there wouldn't be a bottleneck which is clearly not the case.
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That's because starcraft 2 is a CPU intensive game. So naturally it's going to get lower frames. In that case, you could say the i5-2500k is even being bottlenecked. No matter what game you play, there's always going to be some type of bottleneck. He'll see increases in performance by getting a 2500k, its not because the phenom was bottlenecking him, its more so because the 2500k would have alot more pull on cpu intensive games. Phenom ii x4 is a good balance with CF 5850's..he should have no problems pretty much playing anything he wants...and I'm sure he doesn't have any issues playing anything he wants. He likely just has an upgrade itch.
The i5-2500K does not bottleneck in Starcraft once overclocked. He may be able to play such CPU-dependent games but the performance may be much better on Intel.
Edited by openureyes - 12/23/11 at 6:28pm
post #30 of 51
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I don't, but you specifically mentioned Starcraft as an example where there wouldn't be a bottleneck which is clearly not the case.

I never said I was playing Starcraft II. If you paid attention when reading, you'll notice I said "On Hold/Future", which means I'm not playing it right now or I will play it in the future.

The games I said I am playing WoW, L4D2, Defense Grid, CoH. Regardless of whether we are talking about SCII or not, If I'm happy with 41fps, in SCII, who are you to tell me I am bottleneck by my system?

Do you think that a $1 billion annual gross profit for AMD is alot, Certainly it is. Is it for Intel,? Hell no. AMD and Intel both have different earning goals, what's good for one is not necessarily the same for someone else.

No where has the OP stated, where he's at and where he wanted to go, but you automatically said he is bottlenecked.
Edited by flyin15sec - 12/23/11 at 6:37pm
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