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Um no... It's still $549. You're buying it from AMD... If OSX has drivers for Tahiti, you can use any Tahiti card bought from anywhere you want. Just shows how little you understand about how OSX works.
And Macs aren't that much more expensive than many other OEMs. 3 or 4 times the price? proof.gif
Where did you read they're getting a 7970M(if that even exists) in the MBP?

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Now lets turn to newegg and b uy the exact same computer shall we?


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12GB
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$1,369.99



3 times as much ram better video card half the hard drive (because you cant buy one with the same hard drive I checked) A sandybridge i7 (the mac doesnt have a sandybridge I checked) and its half as much.


No macs arent more expensive at all.
 
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That asus laptop is what, 2.5" thick?
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Interesting.. thanks for the info I guess..
AFAI can remember, more than a year ago, they had 4870s but was at least 30% more expensive for the upgrade in a mac.
Please correct me with the details tho.. I really know little about macs other than being more expensive than DIY counterparts
EDIT:
http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MC560LL/A?select=select&product=MC560LL%2FA
HOLY FUUU
2500 for the lowest model!?
Can someone please explain?

Mac Pros are for people who need a workstation level computer that has to run OSX for some reason. The thing is Mac Pro market may be dying. Professionals are turning towards PCs running Windows/Linux instead for their workstation needs (like for making movies) because they are better price-performance and higher performing.
I'd like to see a smaller mac pro personally. It's not like it has 30 PCIe slots or something. since they killed off the xserve, it'd be nice to have one just under 19" tall, so they can be rackmounted.
 
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3 times as much ram better video card half the hard drive (because you cant buy one with the same hard drive I checked) A sandybridge i7 (the mac doesnt have a sandybridge I checked) and its half as much.
No macs arent more expensive at all.

Actually, the iMacs are very closely priced if you were to build your own. I think last time I checked it was something like $200 difference or so. The thing that really gets it is the 27" screen. For a $700 panel, that's not bad for an i5 quad-core $1700 all-in-one machine.

Yes, any Mac that was released this year has Sandy Bridge. You need to check your facts before you make a statement.

I know more people who were happier with their Macs after 6 months of owning one than people who owned a Windows laptop in the same amount of time. (Mind you many of them are not like us on here, overclockers, gamers, people who want the latest tech ASAP. They just want something that works without any issues.)

Why MacBook Pros cost more than comparable system? More than likely because the R&D is all done internally by Apple, unlike many common laptops which some use standard parts with some minor changes, not to mention Apple has the thinnest 17" laptop on the market that has dedicated graphics. Apple designed everything from the battery to how easy it is to open the screen. I have rarely seen any laptops that put the battery, the heaviest component in a laptop, where it should be, away from the axis of the screen, not right in the middle of the axis. That's also why I'm always going to buy an Apple laptop for myself because of how well they're built and sure they're not the most powerful laptops on the market, but the hardware isn't sub-grade either.
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Actually, the iMacs are very closely priced if you were to build your own. I think last time I checked it was something like $200 difference or so. The thing that really gets it is the 27" screen. For a $700 panel, that's not bad for an i5 quad-core $1700 all-in-one machine.
Yes, any Mac that was released this year has Sandy Bridge. You need to check your facts before you make a statement.
I know more people who were happier with their Macs after 6 months of owning one than people who owned a Windows laptop in the same amount of time. (Mind you many of them are not like us on here, overclockers, gamers, people who want the latest tech ASAP. They just want something that works without any issues.)
Why MacBook Pros cost more than comparable system? More than likely because the R&D is all done internally by Apple, unlike many common laptops which some use standard parts with some minor changes, not to mention Apple has the thinnest 17" laptop on the market that has dedicated graphics. Apple designed everything from the battery to how easy it is to open the screen. I have rarely seen any laptops that put the battery, the heaviest component in a laptop, where it should be, away from the axis of the screen, not right in the middle of the axis. That's also why I'm always going to buy an Apple laptop for myself because of how well they're built and sure they're not the most powerful laptops on the market, but the hardware isn't sub-grade either.

looked all over the site it didnt say sandybridge anywhere. Not that I go to apples site much granted.


Secondly. Yeah Mac has its niche... Its not in the performance market .


Thirdly. Build your own mac? Sure.. no warranty and dont expect anyone at the genius store to help you. Fair arguments though.


But to say its not more expensive because it has an apple logo on it is ludicrous it is more expensive.
 
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looked all over the site it didnt say sandybridge anywhere. Not that I go to apples site much granted.
Secondly. Yeah Mac has its niche... Its not in the performance market .
Thirdly. Build your own mac? Sure.. no warranty and dont expect anyone at the genius store to help you. Fair arguments though.
But to say its not more expensive because it has an apple logo on it is ludicrous it is more expensive.

I think I'll have to disagree with you there sir. I think a quad core sandy i7 in a laptop is about as high end as it gets, aside from the massive gaming laptops with 1 hour battery life.

As for building your own mac, well, I'll just leave this here:
http://tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=32279
All it needs is a 7950.
 
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Cant wait to see how hot those Macs get haha, who needs a heater in winter.

Macs always run extremely hot, they always have terrible cooling because of the focus on design rather than function. 90C would not be unexpected, at least in my opinion =P
 
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Cant wait to see how hot those Macs get haha, who needs a heater in winter.

Macs always run extremely quiet, they always have terrible cooling because of the focus on design rather than function. 90C would not be unexpected, at least in my opinion =P

fixed that, unless you're talking about the wind tunnel G4 or the macbook.
 
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To all those who are saying that Macs are overpriced: they are in fact not. The iMac, Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro are all very well priced. The iMac is the most powerful all-in-one available and it is at most a few hundred more than the competition which is lacking in several areas. The Mac Mini is, at least the last I checked, the most powerful HTPC available and, is also priced very well. The MacBook Air is actually cheaper than the competition in some instances, if I remember correctly, and the MacBook Pro is usually a bit more expensive than what it should be but not by anything claimed -- the usual comparisons (as below) are against gaming laptops and usually involves ignoring the massive weight and low battery life of such a laptop.
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Lightpeek was Intels code name for Thunderbolt its the same technology
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2.4GHz quad-core
Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz
750GB 5400-rpm1
Intel HD Graphics 3000
AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 1GB GDDR5
Built-in battery (7 hours)2
In Stock
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Screen
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Memory Size
12GB DDR3
Graphics Card
Nvidia Geforce GTX 560M GDDR5
Video Memory
3GB
Intel Core i7
CPU Speed
2670QM(2.20GHz)
CPU Support
17.3"
Resolution
1920 x 1080
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
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GPU/VPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M
Video Memory
Dedicated 3GB
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Dedicated Card
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HDD
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12GB
DDR3
$1,369.99
3 times as much ram better video card half the hard drive (because you cant buy one with the same hard drive I checked) A sandybridge i7 (the mac doesnt have a sandybridge I checked) and its half as much.
No macs arent more expensive at all.
Yet you're comparing a full on gaming laptop against an all rounded MacBook Pro -- they have totally different purposes. The gaming laptop will be as heavy as a rock whilst the 17 inch MacBook Pro is only 6.6 pounds and it will also have almost no battery life whereas the MacBook Pro has great battery life. (Also that GTX 560M is only about 20% better than the 6770M on high settings.)

So, what you end up getting for $1200 less is a gaming laptop which weighs nearly twice as much, has almost no battery life unlike the MacBook Pro which has great battery life, and performs only a little better in games.

(EDIT: I should add, that's a fine comparison to make if you're indeed looking for a gaming laptop but not as proof that MacBook Pro's are overpriced overall.)
Edited by steelbom - 12/24/11 at 2:06am
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