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Not all Tygon is made equal. They have several different tubing types as it is typically industrial tubing. Each has its own designated role, and even then, cheap tubing is cheap tubing thumb.gif

I noticed it was the R3603 product number, which is their supposedly laboratory quality tubing. I thought that line was supposed to be high quality.
 
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Check out what plasticizer leaching from Tygon R3603 did to my CPU block in about 2 months this summer.
It's a 24/7 folding rig that was operating in ambient temps of up to 32ºC, and water temperatures up to 38ºC.

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In the middle of the summer I kept having to speed up my two MCP35x pumps to keep my CPU and GPU temps down. Normally they run at 40% or so.
I tore the loop down when it started taking >70% pump speed to keep things in check and found that.
The tubing was an ugly amber color with a heavy coat of whitish plasticizer residue on the inside walls.

I replaced the tubing with Tygon B-44-4X tubing and it has done much better, but it has become a little cloudy too, and I found some plasticizer residue in the CPU block last night. I've got QDCs on it and have been checking/cleaning it every month or so.
Edited by Caleal - 1/10/12 at 9:26pm
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that pic above is what happened to me in less that 1 week but not as bad. we pulled off the tubing off and threw it in the bin..
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that pic above is what happened to me in less that 1 week but not as bad. we pulled off the tubing off and threw it in the bin..

Is there any chemical way to test tubing for plasticizer content?questionmark.gif

IMHO, it would be really valuable information to have if there was some way in ranking the problem with various types of tubing.thumb.gif I had always assumed it was more restricted to just clouding of tubing, but it sounds like plasticizer itself can be the cause of plugging problems from what I'm hearing.
    
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We have found that if you heat the liquid up to 60c+ and let it run so it softens the tubing and it helps speed up how much plasticizer comes out of the tubing so is good for accelerated testing.

We test out liquids up to 80c how ever we have cracked loads of XSPC reservoirs doing this.

We have all so another way of accelerating the issue but that would have to be taken to pms.
Edited by Mayhem - 1/10/12 at 11:38pm
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I guess I'll be keeping a close eye on my tubing until I can get some replacement in. Thanks for the information.
 
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post #17 of 17
this is my tubing (tygon R3603) after 1 month, with pastel green mint smile.gif

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I'm gonna try masterkleer clear, i think it's one of the best choice smile.gif
Edited by sickofitall - 6/28/12 at 2:58pm
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