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Thanks for the insight so are you saying that this thread (http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide) is misleading?

Lets do a little test here. I'm gonna run Intel burn test using 1 thread only, on Core #0. Then we'll look at core temps and "CPU" temps.

As you can see in the picture below, only one core is at full load, yet "Core temps" are identical for all four cores.... Not only that, 23*C is below my ambient temp anyways. The "CPU" temp is at 33*C and judging by the heat around the CPU (using my finger) that seems about right.

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Okay, now lets try it with 2 cores. Core #0 and Core #1. CPU temp went up 1*C and look at Core temps.... Then went up exactly 1*C on all four cores.

538

Just for fun lets try 3 cores and see what happens.

508

And we get the same result. Core temps are reading 26*C (which is about ambient) at 75% load. My cooling is pretty good, but its not that good, lol.

Not only that, you can see when "CPU" temp rose, so did Core temp. The core's themselves don't have an actual sensor to output temps, the "Core temp" temperature is purely a calculated value and is completely worthless IMO.
    
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what were your temps (cpu and mainboard) loaded at 4/hex?
man, i may have to try the new cpuid. i've never seen our chip only pull 144W as a hex.

As hexcore it's CPU 37-38c and mobo 34-35c idle and under load CPU is at 54-56c, no idea of the system/mobo temps under load. I do not recall quad temps as I have not run it as quad for couple of months. The ambient temp at the moment is about 27c and the two GTX560 arent helping the temps at all smile.gif
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@ sage..It looks like you are at your thermal limit
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As hexcore it's CPU 37-38c and mobo 34-35c idle and under load CPU is at 54-56c, no idea of the system/mobo temps under load. I do not recall quad temps as I have not run it as quad for couple of months. The ambient temp at the moment is about 27c and the two GTX560 arent helping the temps at all smile.gif

use this guide if you wish to fine tune your oc . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys

i would lower the ht down to 2000MHz and leave its vcore to auto. amd recommends max temp not to go over 62C but i know for sure that software monitoring programs are not that accurate. if you can lower your cpu temp further it might help.

lowering temp by improving air flow, using a better paste, and other solutions without going as far as buying a better cpu cooler might work. in your case every degree lower counts. your ambient is already low.
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@ sage..It looks like you are at your thermal limit

It would appear so guess i need a better cpu cooler and case
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use this guide if you wish to fine tune your oc . . .
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys
i would lower the ht down to 2000MHz and leave its vcore to auto. amd recommends max temp not to go over 62C but i know for sure that software monitoring programs are not that accurate. if you can lower your cpu temp further it might help.
lowering temp by improving air flow, using a better paste, and other solutions without going as far as buying a better cpu cooler might work. in your case every degree lower counts. your ambient is already low.

Thanks, was not sure if the HT Link helped at all, like i said, read it from somewhere else that amd chips would like the HT Link and NB to be at the same freq, but have not seen any such talks in here. I have read the quide you linked to, but still a bit unsure which NB voltage i should work with, NB Voltage or CPU NB VID. As usual, the mobo manual is of little help explaining the settings.

My case has 4 aftermarket fans installed along with the ones that came with the case, i am using Noctua NH-U12P SE 2 as the cpu cooler, max rpm's all the time. Not sure if i can do better without liquid for the cpu ..

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Lets do a little test here. I'm gonna run Intel burn test using 1 thread only, on Core #0. Then we'll look at core temps and "CPU" temps.
As you can see in the picture below, only one core is at full load, yet "Core temps" are identical for all four cores.... Not only that, 23*C is below my ambient temp anyways. The "CPU" temp is at 33*C and judging by the heat around the CPU (using my finger) that seems about right.
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Okay, now lets try it with 2 cores. Core #0 and Core #1. CPU temp went up 1*C and look at Core temps.... Then went up exactly 1*C on all four cores.
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Just for fun lets try 3 cores and see what happens.
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And we get the same result. Core temps are reading 26*C (which is about ambient) at 75% load. My cooling is pretty good, but its not that good, lol.
Not only that, you can see when "CPU" temp rose, so did Core temp. The core's themselves don't have an actual sensor to output temps, the "Core temp" temperature is purely a calculated value and is completely worthless IMO.

Your low temps is expected because you got superior cooling and am assuming your ambient room temp is around 26c. Where as, i'm using air cooling and room temp is 33c cause i'm in the Caribbean and since your guys only monitor cpu/socket temp then programs like coretemp should be obsolete?
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Your low temps is expected because you got superior cooling and am assuming your ambient room temp is around 26c. Where as, i'm using air cooling and room temp is 33c cause i'm in the Caribbean and since your guys only monitor cpu/socket temp then programs like coretemp should be obsolete?

I would say its around 26c ambient temp. There's no way core temps should be 26c at full load tho. Idle temps, sure but not load temps. I was pointing out how inaccurate core temps were. I mean, its not even monitoring core temps independently, they're all just the same temp, lol.

I used to go by core temps back when I was running A64's, and would always wonder why I was BSOD'ing or getting unstable even tho temps were fine. After realizing I needed to look at the "CPU" temp instead, I quickly figured out why I was having issues.
    
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Thanks, was not sure if the HT Link helped at all, like i said, read it from somewhere else that amd chips would like the HT Link and NB to be at the same freq, but have not seen any such talks in here. I have read the quide you linked to, but still a bit unsure which NB voltage i should work with, NB Voltage or CPU NB VID. As usual, the mobo manual is of little help explaining the settings.
My case has 4 aftermarket fans installed along with the ones that came with the case, i am using Noctua NH-U12P SE 2 as the cpu cooler, max rpm's all the time. Not sure if i can do better without liquid for the cpu .. Warning! (Click to show) http://www.overclock.net/image/id/2680227/width/600/height/421

if you're gaming using hex try quad with a higher oc. like 4.2 - 4.3 GHz. save your hex settings first in bios. i don't think water will make a big difference, since youv'e got a very good cooler. a dedicated fan on the nb and vrm area might help in stability.

see if you can fine tune your oc again and maybe lower that cpu vcore. if you jump on water cooling - a closed loop maybe. custom loop is open for upgrade and can become expensive.
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I would say its around 26c ambient temp. There's no way core temps should be 26c at full load tho. Idle temps, sure but not load temps. I was pointing out how inaccurate core temps were. I mean, its not even monitoring core temps independently, they're all just the same temp, lol.
I used to go by core temps back when I was running A64's, and would always wonder why I was BSOD'ing or getting unstable even tho temps were fine. After realizing I needed to look at the "CPU" temp instead, I quickly figured out why I was having issues.

k, can you pls. help Jahve77 as well.
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