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I still have to find those tiny stick-on heatsinks for my VRM =P turns out those things are hard to find near me. Either way, a chunky cooler is now on my 960T and it brought down the idle temp from 44*C to 30*C. My CPUID says my mainboard is 2* warmer lol. I'll run Prime95 blend till I have to leave which will be for a total of 25-35 minutes. Until I find adequate heatsinks for the VRM I'll stick to quad core. All I can find are the northbridge or ram coolers.

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http://i.imgur.com/qLJT7.jpg + 10 minutes in blend test

edit: 32 minutes, passed self-test of 8K... thanks to the Scythe Mugen 2 my cpu has still not broken 42*C.
Edited by BadRobot - 2/15/12 at 5:03am
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I still have to find those tiny stick-on heatsinks for my VRM =P turns out those things are hard to find near me. Either way, a chunky cooler is now on my 960T and it brought down the idle temp from 44*C to 30*C. My CPUID says my mainboard is 2* warmer lol. I'll run Prime95 blend till I have to leave which will be for a total of 25-35 minutes. Until I find adequate heatsinks for the VRM I'll stick to quad core. All I can find are the northbridge or ram coolers.
Current settings:
qLJT7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qLJT7.jpg + 10 minutes in blend test

Bad,

something like this . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708012

they should be available there. just one set. if they are expensive, just save the money and think about an upgrade for the future. just my 2cents.gif
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Bad,
something like this . . .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708012
they should be available there. just one set. if they are expensive, just save the money and think about an upgrade for the future. just my 2cents.gif

The closest to that I've found are these http://www.zalman.com/Eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=136 smile.gif It's meant for a gfx card but everything else is either not in stock, for the northbridge, or gigantically huge like the mugen 2 lol
They'll arrive tomorrow morning.
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The closest to that I've found are these http://www.zalman.com/Eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=136 smile.gif It's meant for a gfx card but everything else is either not in stock, for the northbridge, or gigantically huge like the mugen 2 lol
They'll arrive tomorrow morning.

those will work. if you can find one made of solid copper - better. so, long they are cooled and not too expensive.

they match the color of your mobo, too.

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just be careful putting them on. do not let it touch any exposed solders and might short out the board. line them up nice and neat.

-get the heatsinks ready with the adhesives on them.

-run your motherboard first to warm it up, then shut it down completely

-ground yourself (touch the case), then install.

it will help to lay your pc on its side when installing. then, run your pc again to make sure the adhesive do its job (i mean stick to the vrms).
Edited by rdr09 - 2/15/12 at 5:44am
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3.8GHz @ 1.33v is this good?
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yeah i have noticed that, but im consfused
i ran prime95 as quad, coretemp showed highest temp around 52°C
then i ran prime95 as hexa, TMPIN1 was at 73°C!!! lets say, its 10°C cooler, its still 63°C, is it really THAT big difference between quad and hexa?
i havent changed voltages at all

Yeah, it is. That's about right too. You have to keep in mind that there is probably a reason why the additional two cores where disabled, and heat can certainly be a good reason. The stock cooler is designed for 95W TDP @ 3.0 GHZ or like 105W @ 3.4 (turbo). When you add the extra 2 cores, your TDP is `145W @ 3.0 and about 165 @ 1.425 @ 3.4 (turbo). Even my heatsink, which is rated to handle up to 145W TDP has trouble keeping up with all 6 cores, but doesn't show it until about 1.45V.
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True it's up to preference biggrin.gif I was thinking when I do have adequate cooling (in about 0.5-1 hour from now) I'd dedicate 2 cores to all the background stuff (chat programs, downloads, browser, while the other 4 are for the heavy programs such as gaming while backing up, watching a video, etc, etc. Having multiple monitors means I usually have way more programs open.
Either way, it's up to the electronic gods to see if 6 cores and good cooling is stable enough for a 24/7 rig. I'll probably settle for x4 with 3.8-4Ghz along timings of 9-9-9-26
side note: x6 = e-peen and stuffing it in my friend's face because he was not limited by a budget XD he has an i7/ssd/high end gfx and never acknowledges that my rig is great or good for the price i payed }:C
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I should get heatsinks for that part right? Specifically for the smaller components, the big square ones or just drown them all in heatsinks?

Yes, but I'd be VERY careful even trying 6 cores with that motherboard. While ASUS makes good product that board is only running a 4+1 phase (least that's what it shows online), which is pushing it. You'd want to heatsink them first before even attempting 6 cores, and it'd be best to heatsink all the smaller chipsets in that segment, to ensure all the power regulation is running cool. The higher chips with the writing closest to the processor don't need anything, but the smaller chips next to them do.

Keep in mind that just because it's 4+1 phase doesn't mean it won't work, but it only supports (technically) up to a 125W processor.

I also noticed that your vcore is high -- you must still be running turbo mode, or didn't manually set the vcore back to it's default -- 1.275. Your temps will be higher because your pumping more voltage than necessary. This can also (though unlikely) cause some instability issues.
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Thanks for the tips on putting on the heatsinks. What it defaults (after using the reset switch due to a bad oc) to is 1.4V for the VCore. The motherboard does allow the Phenom II x4 965 which is rated at 140W. Unfortunately when it's unlocked it goes to 177W...soooo not safe XD
I've settled for running it as an x4 instead of x6. Maybe down the line in 2-4 years I'll have an ATX board that's better than 4+1 and actually has a heatsink on the VRM part.
Tonight I'll run it between 1.275-1.375 as an x4 and see high it'll go. I'm aiming for 4Ghz. If I can't beat my friend with more cores...I will win with a higher clock!!

side note: rep++ for you thumb.gif


edit: After trying wtih x16-x20 multiplier and a vcore of 1.275 it just does not want to boot into windows. I've set it to 210x18 for 3780Mhz with a voltage of 1.35 but it registers it as 1.39-1.42. At least this cpu is waaaay laxer on OCing compared to the locked A8-3850.

edit 2: 210x18.5 3885Mhz @1.34-1.37V http://i.imgur.com/P0Tmi.jpg

edit 3: 220x18 3960Mhz @1.4V http://i.imgur.com/861cU.jpg I like this one the most because the freq match the cpu's #. 960 ftw! biggrin.gif
-- Prime95 blend test causes core 4 to fail "[Wed Feb 15 18:09:53 2012] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4. Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file."
-- seconds after posting that it BSOD'ed

edit 4: back down to 215x18 3870Mhz @1.38V (which i'm sure was 1.425 in the BIOS). fatal error again. setting it back to stock and stress testing. i hope I did not kill core 4 :C
it's all good (i think)...on stock it got past test 5 as opposed to not finishing 1

edit 5: 221x16 3535Mhz @1.375 (registers as 1.34-1.38V) I think i'll stick to this for now. Blend test while I cook/eat and tomorrow, since it's a free day, I'll see about getting a higher clock. ~20 minutes in and it still hasn't crashed.
++ 1 hour in and it still hasn't crashed/stopped. This one's a keeper! =D
++ 1h30 and its passed the 8, 12, 20, 640, 720, & 800K self-test for blend
this is my failsafe OC now.

edit 6: core 4 REALLY doesn't like 3.7Ghz. 221x16.5 3646Mhz is still fine and is stressing well. but at x17 it will fail on core 4.
++ letting Prime95 go for the next 8 hours on 221x16.5 @1.356V. I still feel weird about the FSB:DRAM ratio being 3:10 @736Mhz
Edited by BadRobot - 2/15/12 at 3:12pm
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Yea baby got my voltage down again and stable thus far. Now im at 3.8GHz @ 1.30v and dropping. Would be so sweat if it turns out I have a awesome OC chip on my hands.
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Thanks for the tips on putting on the heatsinks. What it defaults (after using the reset switch due to a bad oc) to is 1.4V for the VCore. The motherboard does allow the Phenom II x4 965 which is rated at 140W. Unfortunately when it's unlocked it goes to 177W...soooo not safe XD
I've settled for running it as an x4 instead of x6. Maybe down the line in 2-4 years I'll have an ATX board that's better than 4+1 and actually has a heatsink on the VRM part.
Tonight I'll run it between 1.275-1.375 as an x4 and see high it'll go. I'm aiming for 4Ghz. If I can't beat my friend with more cores...I will win with a higher clock!!
side note: rep++ for you thumb.gif
edit: After trying wtih x16-x20 multiplier and a vcore of 1.275 it just does not want to boot into windows. I've set it to 210x18 for 3780Mhz with a voltage of 1.35 but it registers it as 1.39-1.42. At least this cpu is waaaay laxer on OCing compared to the locked A8-3850.
edit 2: 210x18.5 3885Mhz @1.34-1.37V http://i.imgur.com/P0Tmi.jpg
edit 3: 220x18 3960Mhz @1.4V http://i.imgur.com/861cU.jpg I like this one the most because the freq match the cpu's #. 960 ftw! biggrin.gif
-- Prime95 blend test causes core 4 to fail "[Wed Feb 15 18:09:53 2012] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4. Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file."
-- seconds after posting that it BSOD'ed
edit 4: back down to 215x18 3870Mhz @1.38V (which i'm sure was 1.425 in the BIOS). fatal error again. setting it back to stock and stress testing. i hope I did not kill core 4 :C
it's all good (i think)...on stock it got past test 5 as opposed to not finishing 1
edit 5: 221x16 3535Mhz @1.375 (registers as 1.34-1.38V) I think i'll stick to this for now. Blend test while I cook/eat and tomorrow, since it's a free day, I'll see about getting a higher clock. ~20 minutes in and it still hasn't crashed.
++ 1 hour in and it still hasn't crashed/stopped. This one's a keeper! =D
++ 1h30 and its passed the 8, 12, 20, 640, 720, & 800K self-test for blend
this is my failsafe OC now.
edit 6: core 4 REALLY doesn't like 3.7Ghz. 221x16.5 3646Mhz is still fine and is stressing well. but at x17 it will fail on core 4.
++ letting Prime95 go for the next 8 hours on 221x16.5 @1.356V. I still feel weird about the FSB:DRAM ratio being 3:10 @736Mhz

Can you check your bios to see if you have any features for Line load calibration? i might just be listed as "LLC". If you do, try disabling it. It will give you vcore spikes during heavy load.

Your saying 16x 200 does not boot windows?
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would CM hyper 212+ fit in here?
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Can you check your bios to see if you have any features for Line load calibration? i might just be listed as "LLC". If you do, try disabling it. It will give you vcore spikes during heavy load.
Your saying 16x 200 does not boot windows?

I'll check it in a moment. No, I'm saying that at 3.7Ghz it boots into windows but will almost instantly fail prime95 on core 4. I've had some luck now using TurboV Evo and setting the multiplier of the 4th core to 15.5 instead of 16.5x220 @1.375V, NB 1.25V, DRAM 1.5V.

LLC for the NB and CPU were on Auto and are now disabled. I should mention that I did have a good 4h50m run on Prime95 overnight at what I believe was 220x16.5 @1.35V, NB @1.247, DRAM @ 1.5

edit: After fiddling some more with the settings I put them back to 220x16.5 @1.4-1.44V, NB @ 1.175V, DRAM 1.5V and set the HT Link a bit higher to 2420Mhz instead of 2000-ish. 7 minutes in the blend test and it's done better than before this morning. --- Pretty stable with 15 mins in. FSB:DRAM ratio is at 1:2 as opposed to 3:10 before.

I've concluded that my 960T is borderline racist to 3.7Ghz and higher :C Ah well...3.6 is a decent clock. Heatsinks on the VRM can only help cooling now smile.gif
Edited by BadRobot - 2/16/12 at 3:17am
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