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I think I've got a stable OC now..

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why not use X6 mode? tongue.gif

well for one, i cant check my temps as the core temp just says 0...

im not too worried about my VRMs, ive got a gigabyte 970A-UD3 and its pretty tough. All i wonder is if the 2 cores are worth it versus having high clock speeds on the x4
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well for one, i cant check my temps as the core temp just says 0...
im not too worried about my VRMs, ive got a gigabyte 970A-UD3 and its pretty tough. All i wonder is if the 2 cores are worth it versus having high clock speeds on the x4

2 cores are definitely better, and you can pretty high clock speeds @ x6 too
i have almost same setup like you, 6cores @ 3,7GHz with voltage @ 1.40 i think, hyper 212+ is awesome cooler so you dont have to worry about temps at all
i tried using HW monitor, there was one temp value, cant remember name, but if you substracted around 10°C, you could get aproximative value of your temperature
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well for one, i cant check my temps as the core temp just says 0...
im not too worried about my VRMs, ive got a gigabyte 970A-UD3 and its pretty tough. All i wonder is if the 2 cores are worth it versus having high clock speeds on the x4

YMMV, but with my processor, the difference in clock speeds between 4 and 6 core is about 100 mhz.

4.4 is my max as a 4 core, and 4.3 is my max is 6 core.
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2 cores are definitely better, and you can pretty high clock speeds @ x6 too
i have almost same setup like you, 6cores @ 3,7GHz with voltage @ 1.40 i think, hyper 212+ is awesome cooler so you dont have to worry about temps at all
i tried using HW monitor, there was one temp value, cant remember name, but if you substracted around 10°C, you could get aproximative value of your temperature

itd be awsome if somone chimed in about what temp it was, so i can keep an eye on it

i plan on pushing it to its limits when i get back from camping
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itd be awsome if somone chimed in about what temp it was, so i can keep an eye on it
i plan on pushing it to its limits when i get back from camping

You want to focus on both the core temp and the socket. The "core temp" isn't actually a physical temperature, but an internal sensor on the die of the processor which reports a "number" which has a max safe value of 62.

The socket temp is a physical temperature sensor and reports an actual temp. Both are important.

Core temp = 62C max.
Socket temp = will vary, I'd try and keep it under 55C -- with good cooling, it shouldn't push anywhere near that.
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You want to focus on both the core temp and the socket. The "core temp" isn't actually a physical temperature, but an internal sensor on the die of the processor which reports a "number" which has a max safe value of 62.
The socket temp is a physical temperature sensor and reports an actual temp. Both are important.
Core temp = 62C max.
Socket temp = will vary, I'd try and keep it under 55C -- with good cooling, it shouldn't push anywhere near that.

ozzy,

do you mind now explaining that concept of yours in the examples below?

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ozzy,
do you mind now explaining that concept of yours in the examples below?
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When you unlock the processor it runs a different set of firmware which is unable to display the readouts for the internal thermal controls. The only way of gauging processor temps is by using the socket temp as a gauge.

As for the locked example: your cores are running at 20 out of 62 (what AMD states is the highest safe); socket temp is 26C (sensor usually located underneath CPU socket).
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ozzy,

thanks for the explanation. just to make it clear. on the example showing as unlocked, my socket temp at full load was actually only 30 - 31C?

i thought we have to add 10C to the core temps when our chip is locked and that will give us an idea of how much difference there is between the two temps. and when the chip is unlocked we can just estimate the value of the core temps by subtracting the difference we got for when the chip was locked.
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ozzy,
thanks for the explanation. just to make it clear. on the example showing as unlocked, my socket temp at full load was actually only 30 - 31C?
i thought we have to add 10C to the core temps when our chip is locked and that will give us an idea of how much difference there is between the two temps. and when the chip is unlocked we can just estimate the value of the core temps by subtracting the difference we got for when the chip was locked.

No, the 32 C shown when unlocked is inaccurate because the firmware modifications required to enabled the additional cores disables the internal thermal controls. The only way to get any indication of processor temps is by basing it off the socket temp.

That's the confusing part. The "core temp" is not an actual physical temperature sensor like the socket, motherboard or chipset are. It's an internal sensor which spits out a number based off how hot it is. AMD made the unfortunate mistake by putting a degree Celsius after it. It only confuses the issue further. So,

So, in your locked example, the "core temp" is 24 C at peak -- this would correlate to a temperature, which is unknown, because we don't have a reference chart. All we know is that the max safe operating value stated by AMD is 62.

For all we know, the value 24 may correlate to an actual temp of 38C, as displayed by your actual physical socket temp.

This would give some credence, at least in my experimentation, that the processor seems to wonk out at around 62C (socket temp), and around 55 "core temp".
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