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You can just do a fresh install and use a registry workaround to manually activate your copy of Windows.
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That's what I did for Windows 7. What is that registry work around? Is it the same as the Windows 7 one? Man I'm not looking forward to reinstalling Windows 8... I will try and upgrade first and perform the guide over again. If not then I will reformat as a last option.

Thanks in advance.
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That's what I did for Windows 7. What is that registry work around? Is it the same as the Windows 7 one? Man I'm not looking forward to reinstalling Windows 8... I will try and upgrade first and perform the guide over again. If not then I will reformat as a last option.
Thanks in advance.

Yes, it's the same as Windows 7. Here is a link to help you, option 3: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html

It worked for me.
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Trim is an ongoing process, not a one and done thing. If you want TRIM enabled with a raid 0 then you need a Z77 motherboard. If not you will just have to live without trim or live without a stripe.
yes, but if I run the PERFORMANCE OPTIMIZATION, is that not a manual replacement for TRIM?? or anyway, can it help in a RAID 0 if that is performed from time to time??
TRIM needs to be working when the drives are doing their thing. If not TRIM does nothing if you just separate them. It doesn't know anything on what was deleted previously when you brake up the RAID 0 array so manual TRIM won't mark anything deleted to assist garage collection. Garbage collection is what keeps up the performance, TRIM only aids it in doing so by marking things you delete in real time deleted, thus it speeds up garbage collections efficiency and speed once it starts. Without TRIM then garbage collection will just be less efficient.
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Well it pretty much performs Sean's guide for you. You can still do Sean's guide and double check if it missed a few spots like disabling hibernation, etc.
I did Sean's guide for Windows 7 on my 830. I got the upgrade key for Windows 8, so I don't have a brand new OEM key. I can't perform a fresh install at this moment since I don't think Microsoft will give me my full key.
So pretty much I'm going to upgrade my Sean's Guided Windows 7 SSD 830 to Windows 8 and hopefully it retains the settings. If not I will run SSD Magician and just briefly double check the settings with Sean's guide and hope all goes okay.

I did the $15 W8 upgrade thing because I just bought my Probook in July and I just used the product key they emailed me and did a fresh install, didn't have to do any hacks or anything.
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Well, suppose I should join the club. Just finished my new build and a first time SSD owner, 830 256 GB SSD. Vey impressive so far. I'm spending a lot of time configuring Win 7 for SSD optimization and trying to learn all the other tricks. I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore when I installed Win 7 from a bootable USB flash drive and it took around 8 minutes!
Here's my first AS SSD benchmark screenshot, run on 10/17/12. Ran it right after I finished OS and driver installsl.

I haven't run it since but I'm actually thinking of running the Samsung Magician software's Performance Benchmark for the first time. I have a question regarding the Test Range setting. Default shows as 1 GB with options for 100, 200 or 400 MB. Any suggestions as to which one I should use? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

That's strange, I'm wondering why your 4K-64Thrd is suffering a performance hit...?


Sorry, been away a few days. Thanks for the reply. I'm new to SSDs so I can't really answer your question. I haven't run AS SSD since the one I posted. Still haven't installed many programs. Is there something I should look for to explain the low reading for 4K-64Thrd? The 4K Read looks low also, compared to yours.
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TRIM needs to be working when the drives are doing their thing. If not TRIM does nothing if you just separate them. It doesn't know anything on what was deleted previously when you brake up the RAID 0 array so manual TRIM won't mark anything deleted to assist garage collection. Garbage collection is what keeps up the performance, TRIM only aids it in doing so by marking things you delete in real time deleted, thus it speeds up garbage collections efficiency and speed once it starts. Without TRIM then garbage collection will just be less efficient.

I got your point, but in this case what do they exactly mean that TRIM can be performed manually and that RAID drives can be split to perform a manual TRIM on each individual drive?? Am I misinterpreting it?? How can it be if in reality TRIM suppose to be an on going automatic command??
Thank You


Edited by neroneuk - 10/28/12 at 2:02am
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finally installed mine

AS SSD Benchmark 1.6.4237.30508
Name: SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series
Firmware: CXM0
Controller: iaStor
Offset: 4096 K - OK
Size: 238.47 GB
Date: 10/28/2012 12:59:17 PM
Sequential:
Read: 255.97 MB/s
Write: 244.09 MB/s
4K:
Read: 20.27 MB/s
Write: 56.49 MB/s
4K-64Threads:
Read: 176.34 MB/s
Write: 136.29 MB/s
Access Times:
Read: 0.161 ms
Write: 0.056 ms
Score:
Read: 222
Write: 217
Total: 560
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TRIM needs to be working when the drives are doing their thing. If not TRIM does nothing if you just separate them. It doesn't know anything on what was deleted previously when you brake up the RAID 0 array so manual TRIM won't mark anything deleted to assist garage collection. Garbage collection is what keeps up the performance, TRIM only aids it in doing so by marking things you delete in real time deleted, thus it speeds up garbage collections efficiency and speed once it starts. Without TRIM then garbage collection will just be less efficient.

I got your point, but in this case what do they exactly mean that TRIM can be performed manually and that RAID drives can be split to perform a manual TRIM on each individual drive?? Am I misinterpreting it?? How can it be if in reality TRIM suppose to be an on going automatic command??
Thank You

It is saying if the controller doesn't support RAID TRIM you can separate the RAID array and use the drives individually and then you will have TRIM support if you like, that is all.
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In Post #1047 on this page I was responding to a previous reply to a older post of mine. It showed the original AS SSD benchmark I ran after finishing my build. I had run it after installing Win 7, updating MB drivers, doing all the MS updates for Win 7 and applying most of the tweaks for optimizing Win 7/SSD. The reply questioned my 4K-64Thrd Write performance. I'm new to this benchmarking thing (and to using a SSD) so I have no idea what it should be.

I am still slowly adding software (very slowly!) and have made a couple of SATA III connection/cable changes. I had originally plugged my WD storage SATA 3 HDD into the SATA3_0 port (Intel controller) and my 830 256 GB SSD into the SATA3_1 port (same controller) on my ASRock Z77 Pro4-M motherboard. I have now switched those ports (SSD on SATA3_0 and HHD on SATA3_1) and also replaced the original ASRock supplied SATA cables with a couple of Silverstone SATA 3 cables (very nice but pricey!).

System is running fine but I would like to run another benchmark and see if my changes have any effect on the AS SSD results. I haven't run any kind of benchmarking program since the original one on 10/17/12. Is it OK to run AS SSD benchmark again? Reason I'm asking is I have read many posts about not running SSD benchmark tests very often to avoid excessive writes to the SSD.

Appreciate any comments.
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