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Don't know where you get 14 years from because these drives will outlast your grand children, their life expectancy is easily at a century.

Believe he is referring to Anandtech's review of the 840 and their estimate on endurance of TLC NAND. They give an estimated lifespan of 3.5 yrs to the 128gb model and 7 yrs to the 256 model. So extrapolating to the 500gb model at double again would be 14 yrs.
    
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I'll receive my Samsung 840 120GB SSD this week, never used a SSD before, I'll install Windows 7 on it, are these the correct steps?

1. Enable AHCI in BIOS
2. Install Windows 7 on the SSD (Also do I need to format the SSD?)
3. Install motherboard drivers and the disc it came with the SSD
4. Install Samsung Magician and check for firmware update

Also what software should I use to benchmark the read/write speed so I know it's in perfect condition and set it up correctly?
post #1973 of 5733
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The way I thought about it, either I could get the 256GB Pro and be forced to upgrade in 2 years due to running out of storage space. Or, I could get the 500GB TLC for a little bit more, and not run out of space for at least 5 years, which means it's also the cheaper solution over a 5 year period. Also, being an enthusiast, I will obviously upgrade my SSD in the next 5 years so any endurance talk is void for me.

But whats icing on the cake is both Anandtech and HardOCP show that these bigger capacities drives will outlast the technology itself, I'm looking at at least 14 years with my 500GB TLC NAND. Unless the controller dies, there is absolutely nothing to worry about regarding the NAND in the higher capacity models. As an OS drive and for all my games/steam, the 500GB was a bargain at £240. Games these days are extremely big upon install. Mass Effect 3 was around 15GB alone. I can only see games getting bigger so 250/256GB for me is no solution.

For those folks on the fence, seriously, you will notice no difference between the Samsung 250GB/500GB TLC, the 840 Pro, Vector, Corsair GTX etc. Only in benchmarks are things apparent. So choose whats important to you, benchmarks or actual usable storage/price. All these drives are blazing fast, you will notice no difference in day to day use.

Completely agree. I purchased the Samsung 840 500GB for my laptop but looks like I'll now be using that to replace an Intel X25-M 120GB SSD as VM and scratch disk on the desktop. Planning on getting the Crucial M500 960GB for the laptop when it gets released. biggrin.gif
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WARNING!! RAID users out there make sure to get the 840 series PRO version IF you want to use in RAID`s i got 2 samsung 840 250gb series(model # MZ-7TD250KW) drives to set up for RAID and TigerDirect did not post that these ssd`s cant use the firmware software that the drives came with and Samsung`s website you have to look real close to see they posted that firmware does not supports RAID`s. All in all i set up windows 7 64bit in RAID 0 using the load drivers from a usb using the mobo`s RAID control drives updated on the mobos website.
post #1975 of 5733
You cant see PROs in Magician software if they are in Raid.You have to update firmware in AHCI mode.You do it in other pc or like i did,install just windows and software on spare disc.
Edited by Unit Igor - 2/25/13 at 1:47pm
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You cant see PROs in Magician software if they are in Raid.You have to update firmware in AHCI mode.You do it in other pc or like i did,install just windows and software on spare disc.

Trust me you cant use 840 NON pro series in RAID IF you want to use the Magician software It works yes in AHCI i update the firmware what i first got the drives. Then i set up raid 0 in my BIOS then boot from w7 DVD it could not find the drive which i set up in the RAID config screen i set my stripe and size which was default w7 could not find my drive i had to load drives from my sabertooth 990fx asus website then installed w7.. Now after i installed w7 i installed the y"Magician software" says it does not see and samsung drives period.. trust me i`mo n my 6th fresh install of w7 and the fireware or Magician software crap software doesnt work. The samsung tech fools finally told me that after 2 hrs in chat with them.
Edited by TinCup23 - 2/25/13 at 2:00pm
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What you are describing is normal. You select RAID in your BIOS....you reboot and then go into your RAID utility....create your RAID array....Reboot to your OS install (Disk or USB) get to the drive screen, load your RAID drivers so that you can see your drives finally install your OS. Once this is all said and done, your disks do not report as being Samsung, Crucial, OCZ...etc, they are a RAID array, Samsung Magician or any other piece of software is not going to see that the drives are anything other than a RAID array.....that's how RAID works.

My dual 256GB Samsung 840 PRO drives are setup as a RAID 0 array and they are also not found by Samsung Magician.
   
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What you are describing is normal. You select RAID in your BIOS....you reboot and then go into your RAID utility....create your RAID array....Reboot to your OS install (Disk or USB) get to the drive screen, load your RAID drivers so that you can see your drives finally install your OS. Once this is all said and done, your disks do not report as being Samsung, Crucial, OCZ...etc, they are a RAID array, Samsung Magician or any other piece of software is not going to see that the drives are anything other than a RAID array.....that's how RAID works.

My dual 256GB Samsung 840 PRO drives are setup as a RAID 0 array and they are also not found by Samsung Magician.

Thank you for clearing this up for me i am quite new to the RAID set up. My new issue which no one seems to know or not saying is I have my 2 samsung 840 drives in a RAID 0 installed w7 all cool. Then i pluged in my 1TB HDD (partioned into 2 drives) What i want to do is use my 1TB HDD to do a system image restore in case some goes bad i can use my HDD(set in IDE in BIOS) to recover and restore my SSD`s can i do this and how with details please. I have amd cpu 6100fx sabertooth 990fx board it have on board raid controls.
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Just plug it in, you should be able to see it in Disk Manager.
   
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