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Oops, I did not write that very well, and I did not get my point across. Let me try that again:

Of course, there's really nothing out there to replace them, short of perhaps the new Plextor's. I know you won't use another, rather infamous brand of SSDs, that also have a new model... not that you're missing anything.

I actually do like the Plextors, given what I have read about them, although I don't own any. They aren't as readily available as other SSDs are where I live, and I was able to get an extra good deal on my last SSD purchase (Samsung 840 Pro.) I've been forcing myself not to get any new SSDs until what I really want is available. Otherwise, the Plextor M5P EX would be on my short list. I actually sold an m4 recently, a first for me.

Hehe, me thinks now it was my mistake, sorry about that bud. wink.gif

Yes, correct about that shall we say unnamed oem. biggrin.gif
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Updated.
While having specs filled out helps with diagnosing problems, please do not make it a point to police the members and refuse them help until they've done that, it borders on being rude. If you aren't running the thread, you shouldn't try something like that. wink.gif

It gets frustrating when people ask for help without filling in their specs. Numerous times filling in their specs would have made helping them much, much easier, which is why Sean has it in his signature.

I don't want to police the thread but it's frustrating having to ask the same question repeatedly. I apologise if that's how it comes over.
Edited by Liranan - 3/18/13 at 2:25am
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It gets frustrating when people ask for help without filling in their specs. Numerous times filling in their specs would have made helping them much, much easier, which is why Sean has it in his signature.

I don't want to police the thread but it's frustrating having to ask the same question repeatedly. I apologise if that's how it comes over.
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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

It gets frustrating when people ask for help without filling in their specs. Numerous times filling in their specs would have made helping them much, much easier, which is why Sean has it in his signature.

I don't want to police the thread but it's frustrating having to ask the same question repeatedly. I apologise if that's how it comes over.
I realize that but patience is always key. It shows if you run out, no matter how collected you are. If you'd rather leave it to someone else to answer and ask them for their specs, then I have no problem with that. As you said though, Sean has it in his sig, so perhaps another approach should be considered.
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Got my 840 120gb basic. I'm pretty happy. Write feels much faster than on HDD even numbers are almost same. Read of course is sooooo much faster. Numerous problems with games though, I gotta reinstall couple my games, lost my saves on some etc but still not a big deal.
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Hi Liranan and parsec

I fixed it!!!! I used Paragon's Hard Driver Manager to reformat the HDD. It gave a warning that it was a bootable partition. I reformatted it anyway. It asked for a reboot when done. Mylaptop wouldn't start up then. On a black screen it said something about the boot manageer missing or something like that. I installed my installation disk and rebooted. Then Dell's DataSafe recovery kicked in and restored it back to the origional configuration. When done, I looked at the disk management screen. Guess what? The "system" is gone from the HDD and on the SSD driver's recovery partition. Check it out!! Now I have to do the updates and drivers plus my programs. I've been messing with this for over a month, but it is finally fixed {I hope.). Thank you guys for your help. It is much appreciated!!!!

LeftC



Great, and I can see what happened on the HDD. Notice that Windows labels your HDD as Unallocated, and I'm guessing that your earlier format of the HDD did not leave it in the same state. When the HDD was in the unallocated state, it is not recognized by Windows as a useable disk. That resulted in the same affect as if you had removed the HDD from the PC.

The boot from the SSD failed of course, since it did not have a System partition with the BOOTMGR file, etc, required to boot a PC. When you ran a repair from your Windows disk at that point, it put the System boot files on the SSD. That really was the simple fix to allow booting directly from the SSD, but the trick was getting Windows to ignore or not see the HDD, without removing it.

I was hoping to find a way in your BIOS to set the SSD as the primary device, but your method worked. The HDD is still in the first SATA port (port 0) in your laptop, but I doubt that formatting the HDD will ruin your current configuration.

Whatever you do, don't remove the Recovery partition, since that is where the boot files are stored.
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I just purchased an 840 Pro today (256Gb) to upgrade my X-25M G2 -- which, while not the fastest device on the block, has nonetheless been an outstanding drive for the past two years. Was just wondering if I could compare notes with other owners here to see how my numbers look:








It's interesting to see the differences between the same SSD when used on different mother boards, with different SATA drivers, or OS, etc. Here's a few I ran recently on a 256GB 840 Pro:




Your AS SSD 4K scores are relatively lower than mine, but I had a big hit in the 4K-64Thrd Read speed, for some reason. Our access times are different about a factor of ~2.

I don't know if the benchmark program used in the different versions of Magician we used is the same. I've been using 4.0, which has worked fine for me.

There are many benchmark examples of 840 Pro's in this thread, I've posted a few others previously.
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Originally Posted by parsec View Post

It's interesting to see the differences between the same SSD when used on different mother boards, with different SATA drivers, or OS, etc. Here's a few I ran recently on a 256GB 840 Pro:




Your AS SSD 4K scores are relatively lower than mine, but I had a big hit in the 4K-64Thrd Read speed, for some reason. Our access times are different about a factor of ~2.

I don't know if the benchmark program used in the different versions of Magician we used is the same. I've been using 4.0, which has worked fine for me.

There are many benchmark examples of 840 Pro's in this thread, I've posted a few others previously.

Thanks for responding -- the one I was wondering about the most was the 4K writes... I did see some, like yours, with it up over 100. Here are the drivers I'm currently running (which I'm starting to wonder may not be optimal?):



I'll do some digging back into this thread; thanks for the suggestion...

The difference is response time is also surprising.



Just for grins, ran it again with a single Prime95 thread running. Guess I'm okay after all. smile.gif
Edited by stahlhart - 3/18/13 at 8:46pm
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Given your "5GHz Overclock Club", I thought you would not be using CPU power saving options, and running one thread of Prime95 keeps those from becoming active. They reduce benchmark performance, as you see. I run some benchmarks with all CPU power saving option disabled, just to see what I can reach. Others I run with them enabled to see what happens during a "relaxed" CPU situation.

Your driver is one of the newest official versions of IRST (11.6.0.1030), but it is not a given that newer is "better", whatever better is. Assuming faster is better, newer drivers don't automatically mean faster, it also depends on your board, SATA chipset, and even the RAID Option ROM on the board. My ASUS P67 board is fastest with IRST 10.8.0.1003, at least with most of the SSDs I use.

Personally, with the 840 Pro's, I mainly want to see the 4K reads being in the mid 30MB/s, as that is an important spec, and is better than all other SSDs. IMO, there is no performance difference between the two versions of firmware for the 840 Pro.
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840 basic 120gb. Why is my random read little low? My OS is tweaked like it should, ACHI and TRIM on of course. My firmware seems to be outdated, is it worth to upgrade or too big of a risk with corrupted files? I don't want to redownload 100GB again.
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