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use intel
Can you explain why??
Cause it is not crap.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread#user_Installation
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That does not help much
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That does not help much
If you actually clicked the link and read it, it would. wink.gif

Since you are lazy here you go. thumb.gif

Marvell and third party SATA Ports:
Try to refrain from the Marvell ports as they are not that good, I never recommend using them. They also usually give lower 4k reads and writes as well which affect the OS the most. They can cause system instability such as freezing/stuttering and longer boot times when enabled because it is a 3rd party addon, has a limited bandwidth of ~or below 400MB/s for both of the ports total (even in RAID 0 while the SATA 3Gb/s ports can reach higher speeds), higher latencies, and from what I have found still do not support TRIM.

Edit from Tator Tot:
They make a SATA 6Gb/s chip that does now support TRIM, but as far as I know, all of the boards out right now all use the old "laggy" controller. (the 9123 & 9128 are what most boards have on them)

Here is the PDF for 88SE91XX Controllers: (link)

Only the 88SE9130, 88SE9220, 88SE9230 series Marvell controllers support TRIM. (The 88SE9130 is still to be avoided though as it will most likely have the stuttering issue, as it's still based on the older 91xx designs.)

Page 5 here: (link)
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Note: Inbox drivers enable users to take advantage of OS commands like TRIM to extend the life of SSDs for
maximum durability.

More info on the 88SE92XX series Marvell controllers here: (link)[/INDENT]

Add-on SATA 6Gb/s controllers vs Native SATA 3Gb/s:
I suggest you use the onboard SATA instead of using a PCIe card. PCIe cards add latency and are not really worth it just for SATA 3. You will hardly even notice the difference in use b/w SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s honestly, even 2 SSDs in RAID 0 there is hardly a difference in real world use.

If you do end up getting a a card you need a card that is at least PCIe 2.0 x4 and it needs to be bootable if you want it for the OS drive. Like this: (link)

Also, with a add-on card your boot times will be lengthened, stuttering, and other issues can occur as well.
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

If you actually clicked the link and read it, it would. wink.gif
Since you are lazy here you go. thumb.gif
Marvell and third party SATA Ports:
Try to refrain from the Marvell ports as they are not that good, I never recommend using them. They also usually give lower 4k reads and writes as well which affect the OS the most. They can cause system instability such as freezing/stuttering and longer boot times when enabled because it is a 3rd party addon, has a limited bandwidth of ~or below 400MB/s for both of the ports total (even in RAID 0 while the SATA 3Gb/s ports can reach higher speeds), higher latencies, and from what I have found still do not support TRIM.
Edit from Tator Tot:
They make a SATA 6Gb/s chip that does now support TRIM, but as far as I know, all of the boards out right now all use the old "laggy" controller. (the 9123 & 9128 are what most boards have on them)
Here is the PDF for 88SE91XX Controllers: (link)
Only the 88SE9130, 88SE9220, 88SE9230 series Marvell controllers support TRIM. (The 88SE9130 is still to be avoided though as it will most likely have the stuttering issue, as it's still based on the older 91xx designs.)
Page 5 here: (link)
Quote:
Note: Inbox drivers enable users to take advantage of OS commands like TRIM to extend the life of SSDs for
maximum durability.
More info on the 88SE92XX series Marvell controllers here: (link)[/INDENT]
Add-on SATA 6Gb/s controllers vs Native SATA 3Gb/s:
I suggest you use the onboard SATA instead of using a PCIe card. PCIe cards add latency and are not really worth it just for SATA 3. You will hardly even notice the difference in use b/w SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s honestly, even 2 SSDs in RAID 0 there is hardly a difference in real world use.
If you do end up getting a a card you need a card that is at least PCIe 2.0 x4 and it needs to be bootable if you want it for the OS drive. Like this: (link)
Also, with a add-on card your boot times will be lengthened, stuttering, and other issues can occur as well.

I would want to see read write /speeds camparing ssds. like how I have comparison of cpu blocks in my water cooling guide.
Edited by Juggalo23451 - 7/2/12 at 5:05pm
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I would want to see read write /speeds camparing ssds. like how I have comparison of cpu blocks in my water cooling guide.

Here is an example of a RAID 0 array on the Marvell vs Intel SATA 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1145150/official-crucial-ssd-owners-club/340#post_15821517

Otherwise I have no Marvell or third party port currently on my own systems or any previous benches from my old system. I can not make new comparisons on my own.
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Here is an example of a RAID 0 array on the Marvell vs Intel SATA 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1145150/official-crucial-ssd-owners-club/340#post_15821517
Otherwise I have no Marvell or third party port currently on my own systems or any previous benches from my old system. I can not make new comparisons on my own.
Yea I undersatnd that there are more ssds out there than cpu water blocks
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Finally received my 256GB 830 from the Newegg deal last week. Just did a fresh install of W7 on my Chronos 7 and the difference is like night & day.

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Here is an example of a RAID 0 array on the Marvell vs Intel SATA 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1145150/official-crucial-ssd-owners-club/340#post_15821517
Otherwise I have no Marvell or third party port currently on my own systems or any previous benches from my old system. I can not make new comparisons on my own.
But wouldnt my other drives on the same chip affects the performance??
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Here is an example of a RAID 0 array on the Marvell vs Intel SATA 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1145150/official-crucial-ssd-owners-club/340#post_15821517
Otherwise I have no Marvell or third party port currently on my own systems or any previous benches from my old system. I can not make new comparisons on my own.
Yea I undersatnd that there are more ssds out there than cpu water blocks

Not only that, but I have no way to fund it either, I'm putting a ton of money into my car currently and have no job lol. Couldn't even afford it i I wanted to test anything. redface.gif
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Here is an example of a RAID 0 array on the Marvell vs Intel SATA 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1145150/official-crucial-ssd-owners-club/340#post_15821517
Otherwise I have no Marvell or third party port currently on my own systems or any previous benches from my old system. I can not make new comparisons on my own.
But wouldnt my other drives on the same chip affects the performance??
Possibly. Boots are slower for sure.
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