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This little beauty showed up earlier today.





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Edited by pstN - 8/26/16 at 10:21pm
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I've got a 750 coming smile.gif 250GB
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Guys I need exactly serial number of last, newest version of Samsung 850 EVO 1TB 3D V-NAND 48 layer.
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I want ya'r word on that matter guys, as in I couldn't care less about storage itself, but my main concern is performance and longevity... I can't pick one between 850 PRO and EVO. Aynone?
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Originally Posted by neptunex View Post

I want ya'r word on that matter guys, as in I couldn't care less about storage itself, but my main concern is performance and longevity... I can't pick one between 850 PRO and EVO. Aynone?
What about price?

Obviously you can get more storage space for the same amount of money as 850 PRO by buying the EVO. If you dont care about storace space and want the absolute best SATA SSD with best performance and longetivity then yes 850 PRO has no competition (Sandisk Extreme Pro comes close).
It you're talking about M.2 SSD-s then thats different.
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Nah, I'm talking SATA SSD. Thanks for quick reply. My options are... ~$100 for 128Gb PRO or 256Gb X400 or $125 for 250Gb EVO / $78 for 128Gb. Unless I am getting Sandisk its pointless to go for 128+ for me, I don't really use storage that much, its gonna be a system disk with a dump for one random newly released 'hot' game.

The thing is I live away from the place it will be ordered from, so I want to have as less hassle with warranty/replacement as possible; and I don't like buying things that don't generally last much. At quick glance 850 PRO is my perfect match, but there are plenty of people that hate Samsung drives saying their performance in real life is meh compared to synthetic benches :/

I am very late to jump on SSD bandwagon, this will be my first SSD purchase, so If it comes to $22 difference between entry EVO and PRO, I'd rather pay more and get PRO if it is clearly a better performer.
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Well it is a better performer but im not sure you can really feel the difference between PRO and EVO in real world use. Especially coming from HDD both are much faster. I have heard no problems whatsoever with PRO. I have heard a few isolated problems with EVO. So the EVO is using 3D TLC flash wich the best TLC out there but still...
Also the EVO has a problem with caching - It has a small cache of faster flash to capture writes and then write them to TLC flash in the background (when drive is idle). If you write more than the ~2GB buffer to the drive at once: performance drops because the drive will start writing from cache to TLC while the drive is in use.

850 PRO is MLC so "what you see is what you get". It is true that RAPID mode is mostly gimmick on samsung drives. I does give nice numbers for bechmarks but that's like literally testing your RAM, not your drive.
Personally i dont use RAPID and since there are no firmware updates to PRO then you don't even need to install MAGICIAN program.
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Care to provide some easy to read material on TLC vs MLC? Caching problem seems to be annoying. Is PRO still supported officially or did they just decided to give up on firmware updates? Unsure if I will notice the difference, but $22 is not much of a hassle for ~120Gb drive to overpay - if I decide to get PRO that is. I'd rather pay more and get tier product than save $22 and regret it forever.

Maybe I should wait till next batch hits the market, I mean I've waited all this time... but then again I can wait forever. Also can you recommend any good non SATAAAAAAAA SSD?
Edited by neptunex - 9/4/16 at 5:33am
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Originally Posted by neptunex View Post

Care to provide some easy to read material on TLC vs MLC? Caching problem seems to be annoying. Is PRO still supported officially or did they just decided to give up on firmware updates? Unsure if I will notice the difference, but $22 is not much of a hassle for ~120Gb drive to overpay - if I decide to get PRO that is. I'd rather pay more and get tier product than save $22 and regret it forever.

Maybe I should wait till next batch hits the market, I mean I've waited all this time... but then again I can wait forever. Also can you recommend any good non SATAAAAAAAA SSD?
Yes 850 PRO is still Samsungs top of the line SATA SSD. No successor has been announced as of yet and it may not come at all. I think all SSD manufacturers are now focusing on M.2 because improving SATA speeds is pretty pointless considering the ~600MB/s limit of SATA 6Gbps interface. 850 PRO gets pretty close to that limit already.

Regarding M.2 - your motherboard (Z77 correct?) lacks M.2 slot and although it is possible to run M.2 card in PCI-E slots then booting from such drive requires BIOS support wich only Z97 and newer motherboards have.
So no need to look beyond SATA for you. There are some other cheaper MLC options like Sandisk Extreme Pro and others but nothing really beats 850 Pro. 850 EVO is the best TLC drive (others that i have seen are utter crap).

When it comes to TLC vs MLC then MLC has more write cycles than TLC although in normal use that should not be a problem unless you write 10GB to the TLC drive every day.
Rather i think you need to look a bit into the future and maybe even take the 250GB EVO tho it's $25 more. My thinking is that while 128GB might be sufficient today that might not be the case in a year or two. Games are continuosly getting bigger and personally i have seen the need to do dualboot between Win7 and Win10. All of that takes quite a lot of space.
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