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op:may i make a suggestion?buy the i7 2600k!basicly it has hyperthreading(i5 2500k doesnt have it)enable ht (2600k)disable core parking,and enjoy 40 % better performance if you are streaming encoding,recording while playing your favorite mmo!(yes it make a huge difference if you plan to do all i mentionned above!
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dr b, did you see his budget and the hardware he needs ?
i really wish people would READ the posts
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No one ever actually reads.
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dr b, did you see his budget and the hardware he needs ?
i really wish people would READ the posts
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No one ever actually reads.

Indeed.
post #15 of 45
He clearly doesn't need a i7 2600k for a gaming rig. The i5 2500k is fine, I like Asus boards like p8p67 or p8z68, I would go with 8GB (2x4GB) of decent memory 1600mhz, it's cheap for the most part. I have a Coolmaster Hyper 212+ cooler that wasn't too expensive but performs great. I think you'll be able to find a decent board and ram go with your CPU with what's remaining of your budget. That MSI board you posted I would avoid at all costs. Try to build this yourself you'll learn more and have better appreciation for your PC by doing it yourself. Good luck.
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build your own rig. you'll save money and put in the parts you WANT not what someone else thinks you should have.

these are the only advantages of a z68 chipset over a p67 chipset.
unless youre doing encoding with quick-sync or need the onboard gfx, or plan to use an ssd for ssd caching(which will help your ssd to a speedier grave) get a p67 chipset board.
if youre planning to buy an ssd, i dont really see a point in killing it faster using it for caching. an ssd is already plenty fast.

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/difference-between-h67-p67-z68-and-h61-chipsets-a-22.html

stick with 2 sticks of ram. it takes less juice to run them and that means your cpu will run cooler and its less stress on the memory controller.
buy a 2x4gig of 1.5v 1600mhz. its all you really need.

buying the p67 chipset, you can get a great board, better ram and a really good cooler. all coming in under budget. thumb.gif

well ive always built my own computer but part of my point with this thread was i didnt quite understand intel, also the main thing with the bundle is that it comes with a great overclock on it for not much extra cost which i liked... that link about the chipsets was cool though so thanks smile.gif it seems to line up with what ive been reading elswhere so far. i was thinking i should just get a p67 chipset but im not sure those are likely to be upgradeable to the new lineup of intel cpu's (ivy bridge?)? apparently z68 chipsets are... i have a corsair hx1000w psu so im not worried about power draw much, but if it makes things easier on the memory controller then thats a good thing.

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What I'd buy if that were my budget. Just rough prices, I use euros myself.

2x4Gb RAM = around 40£
i5 2500k = around 185£ Retail
ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 = around 90£
Total = A bit over 300£

A lot cheaper than the gladiator bundle even if you get an aftermarket cooler, and ASRock makes great mobos (I don't trust MSI mobos, too many stories heard and pics seen of failed mobos). But don't you have a cooler already if you're running your 955 be @3.7, or just stock cooler oc?

nah i need a new cooler! i dont know to much about msi mobo's but ive heard loads of bad stuff about asrock lol... im bored of asus mobo's and their buggy software though so definitely want something different!

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op:may i make a suggestion?buy the i7 2600k!basicly it has hyperthreading(i5 2500k doesnt have it)enable ht (2600k)disable core parking,and enjoy 40 % better performance if you are streaming encoding,recording while playing your favorite mmo!(yes it make a huge difference if you plan to do all i mentionned above!

i dont plan on doing anything else while gaming so that dont bother me. i think the 2600k would be pushing the budget a bit to much to but thanks for the suggestion wink.gif

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He clearly doesn't need a i7 2600k for a gaming rig. The i5 2500k is fine, I like Asus boards like p8p67 or p8z68, I would go with 8GB (2x4GB) of decent memory 1600mhz, it's cheap for the most part. I have a Coolmaster Hyper 212+ cooler that wasn't too expensive but performs great. I think you'll be able to find a decent board and ram go with your CPU with what's remaining of your budget. That MSI board you posted I would avoid at all costs. Try to build this yourself you'll learn more and have better appreciation for your PC by doing it yourself. Good luck.

i have built plenty of computers myself so im not worried about doing so! i was just attracted to the nice overclocks that came with the bundles! i do appreciate the response though and will keep in mind what you've said smile.gif
Edited by ET900 - 1/5/12 at 2:54pm
post #17 of 45
^The older ASRock mobos were bad, I remember stories about caps popping and all kind of crap. But that was years ago, nowadays asrock is as good as gigabyte and asus and probably the best bang for buck. I really haven't heard much bad said about their 1155 mobos. And neither about MSI other than that their power phases were lacking making 'em bad oc boards.

And Ivy should be compatible with practically all 1155 boards including p67 IIRC, just a bios update needed.
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^
And Ivy should be compatible with practically all 1155 boards including p67 IIRC, just a bios update needed.

P8P67 EVO 2001 BIOS
1. Enable support for Next Gen 22nm Processor.

yay ME!!!! i mean asus!
yeah i returned the msi p67a-gd65. im too familiar with asus and there are too many more oc guides online including an asus reps oc guide.
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^The older ASRock mobos were bad, I remember stories about caps popping and all kind of crap. But that was years ago, nowadays asrock is as good as gigabyte and asus and probably the best bang for buck. I really haven't heard much bad said about their 1155 mobos. And neither about MSI other than that their power phases were lacking making 'em bad oc boards.
And Ivy should be compatible with practically all 1155 boards including p67 IIRC, just a bios update needed.

thats nice to hear. to be fair it was a while back i'd heard bad stuff about asrock boards to so i believe they could've upped their game a bit by now! thats funny about msi though since that bundle was coming with a 4.6ghz overclock on it! ive only been experimenting with overclocking a little bit lately and dont feel all that confident with it yet so thats why i liked the idea of a pre overclocked bundle. dont wanna mess up a brand new cpu! maybe i will just take the risk though and go for it!
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P8P67 EVO 2001 BIOS
1. Enable support for Next Gen 22nm Processor.
yay ME!!!! i mean asus!
yeah i returned the msi p67a-gd65. im too familiar with asus and there are too many more oc guides online including an asus reps oc guide.

i to am very familiar with asus boards. infact its all ive used on my personal setups since building my own! my first gaming setup (built by my bro) had an a-bit uguru fatal1ty mobo or something like that. i really loved that motherboard! not sure what happened to that company... i think someone bought them out and they are now owned by foxconn or something, who's boards ive heard are terrible! remember stories of them catching on fire or something haha....
post #20 of 45
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hey i know there has been a couple suggestions already so far but seeing as you guys are swaying me towards just buying the parts individually and not getting a bundle! - can you suggest some good motherboards for me?

things i would like the motherboard to have:

* pci-e 3.0 (not essential but would be nice for future)

* ability to run crossfire at x16/x16 rather than x8/x8 (especially if it doesn't have pci-e 3.0)

* good for overclocking

* costs no more than £150 if possible


i figured the motherboard is gonna be the key thing to get help with here as i already know what cpu i want and wont have a problem picking ram. i guess maybe help with a cpu cooler for around £50 or under would be good to but i think ive already seen a few suggestions for them smile.gif

thanks all - much appreciated!
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