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I don't think you read everything, because that sure looks like a valid gaming reason to have 12-16GB to me.
Also, my comp uses about 2.5-3GB idle, so BF3 on ultra could use 1GB for all I care, that's still too much for a 4gb system. Gamers do not only game. Their systems do more then games (as Darkpriest667 gave examples of).
With my 16GB I can game with a ramdisk, which allows me to say the thing SSD users wish they could truthfully say: "What load times". Others can scoff at it, say it's pointless (and I recall the same can be said about the 2600k vs the 2500k, the 990x, a 1100T vs a 1090T, and so on)... but its 16GB being used for gaming, exactly what the OP asked. And I don't want to hear "but you have to spend 2 mins loading the game into ram", because I can use those 2 mins to get a snack, then make up that time with the load times.
The way I see it, 16GB (used with a ramdisk program) is a perfectly reasonable way to game.

Your case is valid, im pointing along the lines of people who run a single client (like normal) wink.gif
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Does the OP drive a Yugo? rolleyes.gif
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It's very cheap e-peen and you never know when you may need it.
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There really isn't any reason to have that much RAM but we do. There's no reason to have single braided wires but we do, and so on.

On the definition of a gamer. A gamer is anyone who plays games! There is no reason to get all elite with it. I know your young (which being 28 myself is young) but there was a time when being a gamer was looked down on. You may not like to throw the facebook gamers into the same category as you but they are just as much a gamer as you. Which is a good thing! The more people become gamers the more games we "elitist gamer" get.

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Actually.... I just had a thought.....


For those saying, I have the extra memory for a RAMDisk so I can load my game faster....

Why don't you just load the game up during boot instead? A game loaded in main memory is faster than game files sitting in memory.
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less ram seems to overclock better from my experience 8gb i would say is stndard for gaming these days
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Actually.... I just had a thought.....
For those saying, I have the extra memory for a RAMDisk so I can load my game faster....
Why don't you just load the game up during boot instead? A game loaded in main memory is faster than game files sitting in memory.

Because that is one game, and who uses a computer to play just one game? I've got about 12 folders on my D drive that are only there as images of ramdisks. The big thing about having an entire game in ramdisk is that all assets are there. The transfer time of textures to GPU, or models into ram (from ramdisk) is insanely fast. For example, Skyrim with all my mods is about 6GB in size. My ramdisk can read data at something like 6.7GB/s, so even if I have to cut that in half to write it back to 'normal' ram again, I'm no longer IO bound; I'm CPU bound.

Also, like an SSD, load times are not just the games boot times; it also applies to every level/area load anywhere in the game.
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less ram seems to overclock better from my experience 8gb i would say is stndard for gaming these days

But how big is the difference in game performance with these better speeds? What good is faster ram when you're limited to SATA III speeds to begin with? Ram speed makes a big difference, if ram is your bottleneck, which is only really the case with very low speed ram, or when using a ramdisk.

Speeds over 1600 are easily more 'e-peen' related then 16GB would be, as there is a very noticeable difference if you can load your game into ram. I also see no increase in overclockability when using 2x4GB instead of my usual 4x4GB, so I'm going to ask for proof that more ram holds back the -ram's- OC capability. The only time I see that happening is if one of the sticks is better binned then another.
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i foiund this quote on toms hardware

im not the only one


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264478-29-16gb-ddr3-2500k

"""""" I absolutely do NOT recommend getting 16GB of RAM.

If you Google the Internet, you will find it hard to show a single benchmark with a speed difference between 4GB and 8GB.

Multi-tasking CAN improve very slightly between 4GB and 8GB but it's very low and basically can only be seen under benchmarks (and even then we're talking mainly about the STARTUP of some games being faster because the system doesn't need to temporarily reclaim some RAM so maybe startup is 45 seconds versus 57 seconds after which there's no in-game difference.)

Gaming:
Not a single game available will play differently with more than 4GB.

about 12GB mentioned:
If he has 12GB then he's using an Intel motherboard with Tri-Channel memory requiring either ONE, THREE, or SIX sticks of memory to function. 8GB is not even an option that I'm aware of (unless it can support dual AND Tri which I doubt).

I recommend you consider one of the following:
4GB, 6GB, 8GB

If you go Tri-Channel then get 6GB. Too easy.

If you go dual-channel then it's harder. 8GB can ONLY be justified if you use LARGE picture files with many layers. Here's the math: 50MB RAW file with 10 layers = 500MB (about half a Gig). Two pictures fully opened is a 1GB).

If the above isn't clear you likely don't need the extra RAM.

Unless things have changed, the x58 setup uses TRI-Channel Memory and is likely your best choice so get 6GB of RAM.

RAM is cheap, but it does add a lot of heat and yes, can cause instabilities and even slow things down slightly. """"""
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For gaming 6GB is more than enough but some people dont understand it.

I wouldn't really say it's more than enough. It's more like just the right amount. For me with nothing but essential Windows programs, Steam and GTA IV running my RAM usage is at around 3.5 - 3.75GB
    
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