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Originally Posted by sockpirate View Post

this is a stupid rant.

This.

16GB of RAM is actually becoming the standard because games like BF3 can use more than 4GB sometimes. That combined with Windows and background applications can eventually add up to 8GB, making it too little.
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and to all you people saying the reason to buy 16gb of ram is cos its cheap so why not - are you serious!? what a stupid reason to buy something. first of all i dont think ram is cheap. i could get a couple weeks food for the price of a couple ram modules. that means a lot to me. also why the hell spend the money on extra ram if there is no benefit to it? thats just a wasteful consumer culture attitude. sorry but it is!

With that logic we all might as well drop our expensive cpu coolers and graphics cards too. I mean really, $60++ for a cpu air cooler, for just a few degree's drop, man, another couple of weeks worth of food right there. Hell if you go with water cooling you've got a few months worth of food money. Drop the 590's for say 560ti's and you've got another few months worth of food. Drop the $350 case for a $50 hunk of plastic, and another couple of months worth of food. And with all the downgrade we can chunk out the 1200w PSU for a cheap $50 one and there's another couple months of food. And you know, that motherboard is awfully expensive as well, time to get a cheap $30 one and we have yet another couple months worth of food money.

Or we can solve this whole money wasting issue altogether. Sell the whole PC.



No one said there is no benefit to extra RAM. There is. Let's say you game, easy easy 8gb of ram can be taken up right there. Maybe you want to run MSN/Skype or some other messaging program, then a few firefox tabs they can get pretty hefty, maybe a quick edit of a screenshot in photoshop while we're tabbed out, another good bit of heft. The list can go on.

And that's just while gaming, not to mention when you start doing some CAD / Graphic design work, that'll take as much ram as you tell it possible. Along with compiling stuff. Ramdisks. The list is almost endless to what you can do with ram.

For the price of 8gigs these days, it's worth the freedom to have the options to do with it what you wish. It is cheap, and it IS usable.
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With that logic we all might as well drop our expensive cpu coolers and graphics cards too. I mean really, $60++ for a cpu air cooler, for just a few degree's drop, man, another couple of weeks worth of food right there. Hell if you go with water cooling you've got a few months worth of food money. Drop the 590's for say 560ti's and you've got another few months worth of food. Drop the $350 case for a $50 hunk of plastic, and another couple of months worth of food. And with all the downgrade we can chunk out the 1200w PSU for a cheap $50 one and there's another couple months of food. And you know, that motherboard is awfully expensive as well, time to get a cheap $30 one and we have yet another couple months worth of food money.
Or we can solve this whole money wasting issue altogether. Sell the whole PC.
No one said there is no benefit to extra RAM. There is. Let's say you game, easy easy 8gb of ram can be taken up right there. Maybe you want to run MSN/Skype or some other messaging program, then a few firefox tabs they can get pretty hefty, maybe a quick edit of a screenshot in photoshop while we're tabbed out, another good bit of heft. The list can go on.
And that's just while gaming, not to mention when you start doing some CAD / Graphic design work, that'll take as much ram as you tell it possible. Along with compiling stuff. Ramdisks. The list is almost endless to what you can do with ram.
For the price of 8gigs these days, it's worth the freedom to have the options to do with it what you wish. It is cheap, and it IS usable.

i didn't say nobody said there was a use for it. some people simply said things like "because its cheap" or "why the hell not". im not bashing people who have a reason for it, or even people who don't really. but buying it when you don't really think you'll see any benefit to it just seems stupid and unecessary. i think you missed my point anyway but **** it. i really cant be arsed to get into a stupid debate about this. i might've done when i was a bit younger though haha tongue.gif
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Why are people fighting progress like it's something abhorrent? The more RAM available the more liberties developers of programs can take with memory; while this may result in laziness I think the end result is positive, it makes code much easier to debug in many cases and allows developers to focus on more important things that managing memory usage.
Most applications are not memory intensive and are still 32-bit.

The applications that are memory intensive.... are already memory intensive.

Providing more memory to application that are not memory intensive does not really do anything beneficial. What applications are near the 2GB threshold and are not 64-bit yet? The one big exception would be games and 64-bit support would require massive reengineering and testing.

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Originally Posted by White Fire View Post

This.
16GB of RAM is actually becoming the standard because games like BF3 can use more than 4GB sometimes. That combined with Windows and background applications can eventually add up to 8GB, making it too little.
BF3 is a 32-bit game... I have not seen evidence of it using more than 2GB other than a possible memory leak.

Background applications can get move to paging if not actively in use.

Windows plus game plus common background applications use around 4GB.

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No one said there is no benefit to extra RAM. There is. Let's say you game, easy easy 8gb of ram can be taken up right there. Maybe you want to run MSN/Skype or some other messaging program, then a few firefox tabs they can get pretty hefty, maybe a quick edit of a screenshot in photoshop while we're tabbed out, another good bit of heft. The list can go on.
And that's just while gaming, not to mention when you start doing some CAD / Graphic design work, that'll take as much ram as you tell it possible. Along with compiling stuff. Ramdisks. The list is almost endless to what you can do with ram.
For the price of 8gigs these days, it's worth the freedom to have the options to do with it what you wish. It is cheap, and it IS usable.
Most games are 32-bit..... 2GB max unless Large Address Aware.

MSN/Skype use something like 100-300MB RAM.

Cheap != Free. There is still an economic cost.

There are uses for more RAM... but then people also misunderstand how and how much RAM is used.
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/10/12 at 9:30am
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I run 8GB and I only went from 4 to 8 because of SWtOR and the massive memory leaks (fixed now?)
 
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I have 8gb, because when I started with school, i needed to run LInux or Windows VM's for learning how to do things. I had only 4 GB on my previous system, and running 3 differnet small vms became a challenege.
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Why not? If you have the money why the poop not.


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I'm glad I upgraded from 4Gbs to 8Gbs... But no I don't need 16. Extra sticks may have an adverse affect on overclocking if anything.
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wOw...this many pages dedicated to this?
WHO CARES what ANYONE ELSE does?
If you want 32GB of RAM and will only ever play Solitaire it doesn't matter. To each his own I say.
I'm always interested in the benefits and specs for another users system if they're inclined to talk about it, but I don't question anyone about the choices they make.
If they're good choices for them, that's all that matters. If they're bad choices and I see a reason to offer my opinion, I'll share it.
Other than that...different strokes for different folks man.

-JERM1970...running 16GB or RAM for NO reason whatsoever. Look at my specs and I don't even play games on it...except MAME.
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This.
16GB of RAM is actually becoming the standard because games like BF3 can use more than 4GB sometimes. That combined with Windows and background applications can eventually add up to 8GB, making it too little.

No it can't. BF3 is a 32 bit application. 32 bit applications are limited to 2-3GB of RAM usage (don't know the exact number but it is under 3), regardless if its run on a 32 or 64 bit OS.
    
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