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Ok guys after much reading and tons of studying I think I have finally compiled my list of parts. I have made a plan in paint and I think it is what will work out best. I would like to make sure the pros approve before I drop $600 and have to make another order. The current plan right now is just to cool the cpu. I have a GTX 285 right now and don't really want to spend the $55 for the EVGA block if I am going to upgrade the GPU in 2-3 months. I plan on getting a 580 at that time.

So my loop order will be res, pump, rad, block, res. The few questions I have is about how I plan to do this. I am going to have the black ice extreme 360 mounted external with some threaded rods i guess, this seems to be the cheapest and easiest. The fittings will be facing rearward, away from the case. On the front side pushing I will have the fans. The back side will have the Danger Den Rad-Res. Straight down will be the D5 type pump with an EK top. I am wanting to mount the pump right to the radiator without hose, just use fittings and have it supported by them or the hose it is hanging from. I have in my cart these to accomplish this. Then out of the radiator will be another one of those into this. Then after that the loop is simple, just over to the block and back to the reservoir. Also the fittings on the radiator will be facing towards the rear of the radiator and away from the case for ease of install unless that is to big of an issue.

I plan on using 4250 rpm gentle typhoon fans, I have a 5400 one now on my cpu and it is loud. Are the 4250s quite at sub 2000 rpm? That is my reason for water cooling since I can't hear my tv in the same room now. The controller I am going to use is a Lian PCI slot knob type for 3 fans.

I have done a fair amount of research over the last month or so and this is what I have came up with and what seems to be the best idea to me for my first time. Now rip it apart and let me know its not right biggrin.gif Thanks in advanced guys, and gals!!!!!

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post #2 of 10
If you want low noise why not use a XSPC RX360 rad with 1850 rpm gentle typhoon fans and turn them down to about 600 or 700 rpms
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I want to make sure it will stay plenty cool while gaming or anything else that loads it hard but can be turned down to be quieter when its left to fold or whatever else. If performance-pcs had the 5400 rpm ones in stock I would just pick up 2 more of them since I already have 1. I may end up getting them else where on a separate order I am still undecided for sure.

My main issues are with loop routing and radiator mounting to make sure they are good. If it turns out just as noisy as it was on air I will just live with it lol. All in the name of keeping it cool. RIght now both my cpu and gpu are running 75-80+ under load. They both creep up higher at times. I figure I can run the fans at a lower rpm and keep it cooler than it is now and then turn them up to make it cool real well?
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I'd agree with Los Hog, RX360 and GT1850s should be enough for a CPU (what do you have?) and GTX580. Sure, you'd get better temps with GT 5400s but I'd argue whether the added noise would be worth it.
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I have a i7 920 C0 stepping. Right now highest I can get it stable on air is like 3.8. I am after the 4.0+. I got your PM los hog. And both of you are saying about the same thing which is encouragement for me. I guess there is not really much difference in temps with slower fans like there is on air? On air turning down the fan will add 20+ degrees in a hurry. If running fans at 2000rpm vs 5400 will only make 5-10 degrees difference then that is a no questions asked deal I will be going with slower speed fans. If I can stay under 55-60 degrees full load on both the card and cpu I will be plenty happy. That will be a solid 20 degrees reduction in temperature at worst.

Is mounting the pump with fittings solid to the radiator going to be ok or is there a better way? I figure mount it solid then make that hose to the reservoir hold just a little bit of the weight. I am getting excited about this project, just hoping I can get parts here before my 3 day weekend.
post #6 of 10
With a quad RX480 and GT1450s and a i7 920 (D0) at 4.2GHz, 1.31v I was getting 56ºC Prime 95 load temps in a 20ºC ambient (there were a couple of idling HD4870s in the same loop).

Fastest fans I've used are 1900rpm so can't give examples of temp differences at higher fan speeds but I would have guessed around, maybe 5ºC difference with fans at 5400rpm as opposed to 1850rpm.

Although the D5 is a reasonably quiet pump I'd avoid hard mounting it to the rad or case otherwise you're likely to get annoying resonance/vibrations.
Edited by Big Elf - 12/27/11 at 8:13am
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Although the D5 is a reasonably quiet pump I'd avoid hard mounting it to the rad or case otherwise you're likely to get annoying resonance/vibrations.

I agree LINK
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post #8 of 10
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Well it won't be a solid like bolted on type deal it will be attached via the fitting on the pump to the radiator. It will be kind of floating. Then the radiator will be bolted to the case on 4 rods. So it may still make noise/resonate. I am pumped about getting this thing cooled off and quietened up some.

Thanks guys for your help it is much appreciated. There is only so much reading one can do before they need reassurance and a little bit of oversight.
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If you're using a fitting to connect the pump to the radiator it will still transfer the vibrations. Even tubing will transfer some vibrations as well although soft tubing will cut it down a bit.
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Well got my parts ordered and it only took 30 minutes to realize that I forgot some stuff. Forgot thermal paste and some kill coils. Guess I will make another order for kill coils. Found out that XSPC includes their K2 paste with the block so I wont have to order that. Shipping is now more than what i am ordering.gunner2.gif. Now hoping my parts show up before the 3 day weekend so I can tear it all apart and get it put together.
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