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post #51 of 70
Razor are just Belkin products rebranded as a gaming branch aren't they? Or was that just the Nostromo?

If its all Razor products then that says it all to me...Every Belkin product i've owned was ****e too

EDIT: just researched it and they co-produced the Belkin n52 nostromo. I've allways thought Razer stuff looks fragile though.
Edited by ManOnFire - 3/2/12 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Zethlis, don't listen to anyone saying that this isn't Razer's fault, because it is.
I had the EXACT same problem with two Lycosa kb's about two years ago. The lights would suddenly go off, then on, then switch between full back light and WASD, without me touching anything. I could sit in my chair and watch it happen. Then during gaming, the keyboard would just stop. REAL helpful when horde of zombies is attacking in Left 4 Dead. I had this problem with not ONE Lycosa, but TWO (both brand new). Of course, they're genius customer service said "update the drivers." Well, that's nice, I downloaded the latest drivers and software from your site. So why doesn't it work?
Despite what many people will say, Razer's quality control and build quality are absolute garbage compared to what they were 6 years ago. The first high-DPI mouse I ever bought, the Razer Pro, still works as intended to this day. Every other product I've bought in recent years has ended up in the trash, except the Destructor mouse pad which is awesome.
Go with Logitech. Although I hear the Corsair KB's are really nice too. I use a Logitech Illuminated for typing, a G13 for gaming, and a G9x for my mouse, and am completely happy with all of them. I use the G13 because I don't like the layout of gaming keyboards, they're too large for me, and I find the G13 is laid out really well.

Nice avatar. It's a picture of one of the design elements of that case that I had a hand in. wink.gif

I also hate razer. Here are my experiences thus far:

Deathadder LH: The back part of the mouse where it meets the pad likes to grab the loose skin of my palm and pull it under the mouse, it feels like a bite.
Blackwidow: Not 6KRO, key caps fell off right out of the box. The bounce up from a full depress on certain keys would actually THROW the key cap off.
Lachesis 4000: Sensor died, buttons still work. Didn't RMA because I got it cheap on woot and it was crappy anyway.
Lachesis 5600: The most inaccurate and unstable mouse I've ever used in my life. It jumps around more than any other mouse and is SO unforgiving of pretty much any pad out there except for the pads it was designed in tandem with (Fractal and Fractal 2.0 pads). Furthermore, the software from razer for this mouse caused the mouse to eventually fall off the computer (as in, I'd have to replug my mouse constantly). I reported this bug with no response from razer, even though it's reproducible with two Lachesis 5600's.
Copperhead: Never was very comfortable. Always thought the diamondback was better, although this mouse eventually just flat out wore out after a year or two. Compared to logitech's, razer longevity is terrible.
Razer Bungee: Much worse than the original bungee design. They made it all metal so it's harder to mod, and more importantly, they took out the metal ball and replaced it's functionality with that reusable sticky tape stuff that gets dirt on it and you have to clean it every few days.
Scarab: Brilliant mouse pad, only lasted 6 months for me, though. frown.gif
Goliathus Speed: Brilliant pad, but it's cloth.



So in short, I only trust razer for stuff that doesn't have electricity going through it.
Edited by aynjell - 3/2/12 at 6:35pm
post #53 of 70
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Originally Posted by Furball Zen View Post

You lack one huge piece of info (well two) what mobo and what OS are you using? Sounds like a flaky USB controller hub to me.
Dont get me wrong, im a Logitech man, so dont flame me for trying to fix your issues which seem to be CLEARLY not the peripherals problem.

It's not, I had the same problem with my Lycosa across at least 4 separate motherboards, and a PCI USB2.0 controller that I know works perfectly fine.
    
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My last Razer Purchase is my mechanical thing. I am slightly afraid of lifting this thing up and seeing a spider under it. Here I go! Okay, No spiders and it is the Razer Mechanical Keyboard with the name Black Widow Ultimate mind you I would have preferred the Black Widow Ultimate Stealth. Luckily these things take forever to kill. My Lachesis broke after two years. My Razer headsets(Barracuda and Megalodon) broke after six months and my current AKG GHS1s are pwning everything including the Astro A40s in performance/price. My Lycosa it wasn't as responsive as it use to be so I replaced it. BWU > LYC all I need to really type. They went from good things to absolute dog poo poo because when I became a gamer in First Person Shooters everyone was recommending me Razer. Well, now I am on the CM Storm Spawn and it kills things with its bright bright and I mean bright lazer of eye death. The reflection off the Razer Megasuma can also cause blindness possibly. Enough about my experiences with Razer it is pretty known they are dropping in quality and increasing quantity.
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I don't buy razor products to begin with.  Also I do reviews and I do a lot of hunting and watching. 

 
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post #56 of 70
Razer are rubbish. It's well documented how poor their QA.and build quality is.
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Disclaimer - While I'm obviously directly addressing the OP, I want to make it clear that i'm not trying to insult anyone here, merely point out the truth. EVERYONE has made these mistakes at some point. Most still do.
Razer build quality is pretty poor for the price on most of their products. EVERYONE knows that.
MOST of their products are also over-hyped overpriced cheap common hardware in fancy cases. (for instance, all of their membrane keyboards. You can find any $6 keyboard and slap on the same shell and you have the same keyboard. There's nothing high tech, magical or "gaming" about it).
That all said, they aren't horrible monsters set to destroy your computer and give your broken products.
It sounds to me like you have fallen victim to two problems
1) Marketing:
You bought junk, thinking it would be good. It doesn't matter what company you had bought something from, you would have likely ended up with the same result. Every company produces junk and markets it as gold along aise their actual useful products. It's your job to inform yourself as a consumer what the signs are for spotting actual features vs over-hyped, gimmicky, or even broken design factors marketed as beneficial features.
Example: The Megalodon.
"surround" and "usb" audio is rubbish. Be it Razer, Logitech, Steelseries, Triton, Turtle Beach, Psyko, Bose or any other manufacturer, it will still be trash. Yes, Razer is at "fault" for producing and marketing said trash, but if they didn't, it wouldn't stop everyone else from doing the same thing, and it wouldn't have stopped you from buying the same trash from another company. You need to not buy into the marketing because EVERY company will try to put the same spin on their useless junk.
2) The assumption that your computer itself is without flaws. Fact of the matter is that almost no one has a perfect computer build. The very nature of the PC market ensures that there will be times where incompatibilities go unnoticed. Everyone's computer has some small (or perhaps big) quirks that may or may not make themselves noticeable at some point, its simply the price we pay for not all running nothing but apple software on Macs with pre-approved hardware configurations.
Example: Your USB controller.
It appears, as many have stated, to be somewhat faulty. It would explain why you hare having identical problems with identical hardware. Personally, I burned out several flash drives and returned them all as defective until I realized one of my USB ports was shorting out and killing them on an old build many years ago. Don't forget that your computer can have it's own issues to address/work around. You don't want to end up killing your flash drives forever when all you have to do is plug it in the other port instead, if you catch my drift wink.gif
Now, in your particular case, there are some tips I should point out, just because I know these things from personal experience and research:
1) The mamba WILL work without replacing the battery. Just remove the battery entirely, plug in the usb, and turn the mouse "off". If that doesn't work, the only plausible reasoning is that your usb controller is failing it's job yet again. Try disabling selective suspend and associated power savings features on your usb controllers! It might just save you a lot of frustration. Oh.. and they sell replacement batteries for 20 bucks... its not ideal, but you cant really complain either. Battery's never last forever, you knew that going into it.
2) Stay away from "gaming" keyboards unless you ABSOLUTELY MUST have dedicated, pre-attached macro keys. Why? There simply is no such thing. If someone is marketing a keyboard for gaming, chances are it's a gimmick to sell you more trash. You want to press WASD and 2 other close keys at the same time? Forget Razer and Logitech's "Gaming Cluster Anti Ghosting Technology" and just get a keyboard with 6+2KRO via USB or NKRO via PS/2. Hyperresponse keys? More nonsense, get some mechanical switches if you want an actual improved key pressing experience. Macro/"G" Keys? Just map some yourself via software to a number pad, or pick up something like a Logitech G13.
3) Stay away from "Gaming" audio products, "Surround" headphones, and headphones/speakers/mics that use USB connections. If you really want to produce the illusion of multi-channel audio via headphones, use a pair of good stereo headphones with a large soundstage and use a decent quality sound card to emulate the surround via CMSS3D or similar
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This is really well said.

On a similar note, this whole thread reminds me of someone I know who wanted to prove women were terrible drivers. What he did was while he was out and about, when he spotted a bad female driver he would make a little tick in his notebook. Finally he said, "look at all of these bad female drivers! I knew they were bad at driving!" And I replied, "well of course you're going to have a large tally like that, you've only been looking for what you want to confirm. You didn't even consider the opposing conclusion."
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post #58 of 70
I have the razer mamba,lycosa,piranha,megalodon and blackwidow ultimate steelseries 4hd mouse pad and logitech G500
I sent my blackwidow to their warehouse yesterday because of the spacebar defect it had ....
i had to send it from israel and it cost me 135 shekels (about $ 38 ) for shipping the damn thing and they dont refund me for that .....
My mamba lags sometimes and has detection problems lots of times...
i am a razer fan but the hype about it is going downhill. Probably next time i get a peripheral it will be from a different company.

I dont think ur problems are the companys fault it does sound like a defective USB port....

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Razer products. I laugh at them.
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Same issue with my lycosa, first one died within a month, however the replacement has been working around 90%. It was somethnng to do with a bad batch (serial numbers MT09 or something like that, but not all of them would do it.)
Dont like the plastics they use, they feel cheap and you pay a premium for it. Never buying razer again..
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