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I'd say its between either a 980 BE or 960T. The only thing I'd be concerned with on the 960T is consistency. Just because Redwoodz can run at 4.4Ghz with the RAM and NB set that high doesn't mean the next one will. My 980 BE does the same and the same could be said for that. The difference is 980 BE starts with a 700Mhz advantage so the % margin for OC goal of say 4.4Ghz is quite large. The 980 BE only needs a 19% OC to achieve 4.4Ghz whereas the 960T needs a 47% OC to achieve 4.4Ghz.
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Could be,except we have seen many lower-binned chips like the 955BE have great results too.I would say all of the newest chips seem to have similar results.Whether it's a new Denab or Thuban all seem to have similar results.Easy 4.0 on most-quite a few out around 4.5.The thing people have to remember is running high speeds and volts 24/7 takes alot of cooling.Often that is the difference between stable and not stable.I've been tweeking my system for the most part of a year to get my cooling where it is.I can run heavy voltage because I've put the work in.
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ambient temps around 68F-19c
max temps were 46c(CoreTemp offset plus +10) in IBT in a closed case-with the vcore jumping up to 1.63v according to HWMonitor
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Could be,except we have seen many lower-binned chips like the 955BE have great results too.I would say all of the newest chips seem to have similar results.Whether it's a new Denab or Thuban all seem to have similar results.Easy 4.0 on most-quite a few out around 4.5.The thing people have to remember is running high speeds and volts 24/7 takes alot of cooling.Often that is the difference between stable and not stable.I've been tweeking my system for the most part of a year to get my cooling where it is.I can run heavy voltage because I've put the work in.
For example
ambient temps around 68F-19c
max temps were 46c(CoreTemp offset plus +10) in IBT in a closed case-with the vcore jumping up to 1.63v according to HWMonitor
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Interesting back plate cooler. Care to share any details on how you did it?
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post #103 of 108
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Interesting back plate cooler. Care to share any details on how you did it?

biggrin.gif can't share all my secrets...lol!
that's the fan from the stock AMD cooler,obviously mounting is a work in progress tongue.gif
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1090T or 1100T @ 4ghz lol whats another 300mhz 2FPS in a game, are u serious, come on.... besides with a H-100 cooler id bet u could hit 4.2ghz but will have no real world performance difference between the clocks, its just for you bench freaks!
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Don't bother, noturaveragejoe seems to be working on being another BD troller on the forums.
If you like overclocking and do any form of multitasking or multi threaded work on your PC then buy a BD CPU. The Phenom series is being phased out and will no longer be a good option for anyone.
If you need a new CPU now then I would buy a cheap quad core until the BD refresh comes out in the next few months, maybe wait for Piledriver...
I like my 1090T but I ran a FX 8120 in this system for a short while (on loan) and my board couldn't run all 8 cores, I had to disable 2 of them. Had to RMA the motherboard. While using the FX 8120 as a 6 core the system was very responsive. Multi tasking was a breeze and seemed quicker than my Thuban. In games, I lost a few FPS but that was it, everything was still playable even in Eyefinity.

I just don't understand how I'm trolling... You call me a troll, then you admit the very point I was making. What am I missing? In the original post the first thing he mentioned was "in gaming"...
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The benchmarks show that BD is worse than Phenom II's in single threaded applications and gaming overall but this will change with the scheduler patches for Windows (when they come out)
In my hands on experience with a gimped FX 8120 I decided I wanted one for sure. I can't go much past 4.0 GHz on this 1090T and I run a custom water loop. This is an average 1090T and a 1100T won't be much better unless you get lucky.
People can argue all they want but if you are going to build an AMD system then you should buy the new CPUs, they support higher RAM speeds, overclock like mad (with good cooling) and are the architecture of the future for AMD. I would just wait for the refresh and I am.

So... you openly admit the shortcomings of BD and it's OK. I state them and I'm a troll. Seriously?
    
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Did you even read my post?

I read a couple of them lol. I don't recall disagreeing with you on anything, and I lol'd at "U mad bro?"

(Side Note: I just felt like based on professional reviews, consumer product reviews, and the personal experiences of an associate that BD isn't worth it. Those gaudy numbers are going to look good as a stat-line in your signature but the gaming performance is mediocre. (I guess I'm the only one who remembers the P4 Prescott). Saying you can clock it high enough to overcome the design flaws is their opinion - and it's my opinion that it doesn't work like that. I don't know why people got so butthurt about it - it isn't like they have definitive proof that BD is consistently faster. You know how people get these massive egos online and can't tolerate someone disagreeing with them. Anyways, you said it yourself - wait for piledriver.)

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Yes, but you would be crazy to get a bulldozer that clocks to 5.5ghz when you can get a ivy bridge that clocks to 5.5ghz. Unless they sold it for $50 it would be crazy to get anything but ivy bridge. Not an intel fanboi just looking at facts. Still, tempting to buy one just to overclock it. biggrin.gif
Edit: Can your 965 do 4.1ghz @ 1.35 volts? Btw, great chip. I'm jelly. My 955 does 3.7 @ 1.464 volts.

I said the exact same thing. The 8120 is only $10 cheaper than the 2500K and the 8150 costs even more for less performance. Apparently you're allowed to say it and I'm not LOL!!!

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I see this has hit 11 pages but tl;dr. Unless you're using heavily threaded apps a lot, I'd say go quad core. Games are lucky to run on 4 threads, let alone the less popular 6 or 8. They will catch up though, but the processor will be "less powerful" by then. I'd say go with the Thuban based procs. FX isn't all up to snuff. It may get a nice boost eventually when 7 is patched, but until then, Thuban.
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best AMD CPU today is FX 8150 .

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