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I have $100 in amazon gift cards and I think it's high time I purchase a decent mechanical keyboard for myself. I was looking on amazon and found the Logitech G510 for $88 and just about convinced it's the best value for what I'm looking for. I don't know too much about mechanical keyboards though so I'm looking for everyones opinion on the keyboard before I go ahead and buy it. What do you guys think, worth it or is there something better for the same price?

EDIT: I'm going to be using the keyboard for playing BF3, Skyrim, Minecraft, along with programming and writing papers throughout the school year.
Edited by kschat - 12/28/11 at 11:41am
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It's a good thing you decided to ask us first, because Logitech doesn't make mechanical keyboards. The G510 is just a rubber dome like any other keyboard out there, but with flashy features to mark up the price. If you want mechanical, try looking at the Razer BlackWidow [Ultimate], Das Keyboard, Filco, steelseries (6gv2 and 7G only) or Rosewill RK-9000 series. I do believe that is the extent of the decent mechanical keyboards sold on Amazon. They do sell the Corsair K60 and K90, but those are not fully mechanical. I would also recommend reading the Mechanical Keyboard Guide stickied on this forum to decide what type of switch you would like.

Razer uses MX Blues (BlackWidow/Ultimate) and MX Browns (BlackWidow/Ultimate Stealth). Filco uses all Cherry switches, so just take your pick. Das sells MX Browns of MX Blues (Silent and non-silent models, respectively), steelseries only uses MX Blacks, Rosewill utilizes all of them just like Filco, and Corsair only uses MX Reds.
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It's a good thing you decided to ask us first, because Logitech doesn't make mechanical keyboards. The G510 is just a rubber dome like any other keyboard out there, but with flashy features to mark up the price. If you want mechanical, try looking at the Razer BlackWidow [Ultimate], Das Keyboard, Filco, steelseries (6gv2 and 7G only) or Rosewill RK-9000 series. I do believe that is the extent of the decent mechanical keyboards sold on Amazon. They do sell the Corsair K60 and K90, but those are not fully mechanical. I would also recommend reading the Mechanical Keyboard Guide stickied on this forum to decide what type of switch you would like.

Razer uses MX Blues (BlackWidow/Ultimate) and MX Browns (BlackWidow/Ultimate Stealth). Filco uses all Cherry switches, so just take your pick. Das sells MX Browns of MX Blues (Silent and non-silent models, respectively), steelseries only uses MX Blacks, Rosewill utilizes all of them just like Filco, and Corsair only uses MX Reds.

redface.gif Well that's embarrassing, I could have sworn I saw mechanical keys as a feature before but looking back now you're 100% right haha. I'll give that a read quick and check out the features of the keyboards you listed. Thanks for all the information, I'll post back once I find something to my liking.
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redface.gif Well that's embarrassing, I could have sworn I saw mechanical keys as a feature before but looking back now you're 100% right haha. I'll give that a read quick and check out the features of the keyboards you listed. Thanks for all the information, I'll post back once I find something to my liking.

I think you would be best of looking at either MX Blue or MX Red switches. I personally use MX Reds and I love it. Very light to the touch which is great for gaming and excellent to type on. The Corsair K series seems to be a very solid choice, despite the fact they are not fully mechanical. The K90 offers backlighting and macro keys, whereas the K60 does not. Either would be a great choice though if you don't mind a hybrid keyboard. If you want to stay basic, a Rosewill RK-9000RE is all you need and works great.

If you want MX Blue, the Razer BlackWidow/Ultimate is the way to go. They both offer macro keys (if you wanted them), the only difference between the two is a backlighting. The MX Blues are great for typing, but could annoy people around you with the clickity clack that they do. Not as good as reds for gaming, but still a good switch.

After seeing that you wanted a G510, I honestly believe that the Corsair K90 would be the correct keyboard for you in terms of features (macro keys, media keys, backlight, mechanical, etc). It is a tad over $100, but not enough to break the bank thumb.gif

*Edit* I would like to mention that if you do go for a mechanical with MX Reds, just know that you are not going to be "blown away" by the "astronomical difference between mechanical and rubber dome." MX Reds are linear, so it is just a simple keypress down w/o tactile feedback, and can be similiar to rubber dome/scissor key switches. But believe me, after using them for a day or two, it is very easy to appreciate the difference between the mechanical and non-mechanical keyboards. Cherry MX Blue switches are the most drastic change from a rubber dome, so you will instantly feel the difference, but in my mind, the red switches are easier to appreciate once you get used to them smile.gif
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redface.gif Well that's embarrassing, I could have sworn I saw mechanical keys as a feature before but looking back now you're 100% right haha. I'll give that a read quick and check out the features of the keyboards you listed. Thanks for all the information, I'll post back once I find something to my liking.

I think you would be best of looking at either MX Blue or MX Red switches. I personally use MX Reds and I love it. Very light to the touch which is great for gaming and excellent to type on. The Corsair K series seems to be a very solid choice, despite the fact they are not fully mechanical. The K90 offers backlighting and macro keys, whereas the K60 does not. Either would be a great choice though if you don't mind a hybrid keyboard. If you want to stay basic, a Rosewill RK-9000RE is all you need and works great.

If you want MX Blue, the Razer BlackWidow/Ultimate is the way to go. They both offer macro keys (if you wanted them), the only difference between the two is a backlighting. The MX Blues are great for typing, but could annoy people around you with the clickity clack that they do. Not as good as reds for gaming, but still a good switch.

After seeing that you wanted a G510, I honestly believe that the Corsair K90 would be the correct keyboard for you in terms of features (macro keys, media keys, backlight, mechanical, etc). It is a tad over $100, but not enough to break the bank thumb.gif

*Edit* I would like to mention that if you do go for a mechanical with MX Reds, just know that you are not going to be "blown away" by the "astronomical difference between mechanical and rubber dome." MX Reds are linear, so it is just a simple keypress down w/o tactile feedback, and can be similiar to rubber dome/scissor key switches. But believe me, after using them for a day or two, it is very easy to appreciate the difference between the mechanical and non-mechanical keyboards. Cherry MX Blue switches are the most drastic change from a rubber dome, so you will instantly feel the difference, but in my mind, the red switches are easier to appreciate once you get used to them smile.gif

Whoa, I honestly didn't know there was so much information when it came to mechanical keyboards. Thank you for taking the time to write all this out and share this information with me, it's helping me quite a bit. smile.gif

After reading everything about the different types of switches I think I would prefer MX Black, Brown or Red. My old keyboard was a really low end Logitech rubber dome keyboard that would require me to use a lot of force to get a response. Some keys also become almost entirely unresponsive (particularly the 'w' key due to playing a lot of FPS) which would result in my raging like a champion. Based on this I fell that the MX Brown or Red would be best since it requires less force but I will consider the Black if I have to.

I took a look at the K90 and it does contain a lot of features that I am looking for (The main features I really want are macro keys, a backlight and mechanical keys) but I find it a bit...ugly haha. BTW I also have a $50 gift card for Newegg along with a decent amount of cash so Amazon isn't only place I can shop, just a preference due to the amount of giftcards I have for it. If I have to buy a keyboard from Newegg I'll just buy a mouse and/or headset from Amazon.
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Had a Logitech G510 for about a week now and I'm happy with it. I tried a BlackWidow Ultimate before and while it was great for typing, the MX Blue switches were horrible for gaming. Beside that the keyboard was way too noisy. If you want to go for a mechanical keyboard I would give the Corsair K90 (MX Red) a try.

I wouldn't want to miss my makro keys and on-the-fly recording.
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Whoa, I honestly didn't know there was so much information when it came to mechanical keyboards. Thank you for taking the time to write all this out and share this information with me, it's helping me quite a bit. smile.gif
After reading everything about the different types of switches I think I would prefer MX Black, Brown or Red. My old keyboard was a really low end Logitech rubber dome keyboard that would require me to use a lot of force to get a response. Some keys also become almost entirely unresponsive (particularly the 'w' key due to playing a lot of FPS) which would result in my raging like a champion. Based on this I fell that the MX Brown or Red would be best since it requires less force but I will consider the Black if I have to.
I took a look at the K90 and it does contain a lot of features that I am looking for (The main features I really want are macro keys, a backlight and mechanical keys) but I find it a bit...ugly haha. BTW I also have a $50 gift card for Newegg along with a decent amount of cash so Amazon isn't only place I can shop, just a preference due to the amount of giftcards I have for it. If I have to buy a keyboard from Newegg I'll just buy a mouse and/or headset from Amazon.

No worries, I'm glad I could help smile.gif My first mechanical keyboard was a steelseries 7G with MX Black switches. I loved it and was blown away by the build quality of the keyboard. Unfortunately, one of the switches broke and I had to RMA it. While I was waiting for the RMA to go through, I bought a Rosewill RK-9000RE with Red switches and loved it so much, then when I got my replacement 7G, I just sold it on Amazon. I personally have never tried MX Browns, but I hear they are not as good for gaming as Blacks/Reds. I have used MX Blues for gaming, and I didn't like it (I actually did not really like the blues for typing either, lol).

Anyway, my point is that I still believe the MX Red switches are best. As far as keyboards with Macro keys are concerned, you are quite limited to what you can buy since mechanical keyboards have usually been for simply typing or POS, gaming is a very recent addition to the mechanical world, so not many manufacturers actually make a gaming mechanical keyboard.

Razer is the most popular, but I have already gone over their keyboards (good luck trying to find a Stealth edition with MX Browns if you try to get one of those; they are hard to find), and if you don't like the look of the Corsair that's fine and I understand (I don't like the way they look either). Another option you have for a mechanical w/macros is the AZIO Levetron Mech4, but it uses MX Black switches and I think it is rather ugly as well, lol. However, off the top of my head, I don't know of any other mechanical keyboard that has macro keys other than ones made by Cherry, but those are POS keyboards and cost upwards of $300. The Mionix Zibal 60 has a backlight, but I have heard stories of the backlighting being horrible and the build-quality is just down right embarrasing.

Your best bet then would be to buy a Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth. Although they are extremely hard to find, you might get lucky smile.gif
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Had a Logitech G510 for about a week now and I'm happy with it. I tried a BlackWidow Ultimate before and while it was great for typing, the MX Blue switches were horrible for gaming. Beside that the keyboard was way too noisy. If you want to go for a mechanical keyboard I would give the Corsair K90 (MX Red) a try.

I wouldn't want to miss my makro keys and on-the-fly recording.

I'm definitely leaning towards the Cosair K90 although I don't like the way it looks (I know, a silly reason to not go with a keyboard but I like ascetics tongue.gif). Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated. smile.gif

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Whoa, I honestly didn't know there was so much information when it came to mechanical keyboards. Thank you for taking the time to write all this out and share this information with me, it's helping me quite a bit. smile.gif
After reading everything about the different types of switches I think I would prefer MX Black, Brown or Red. My old keyboard was a really low end Logitech rubber dome keyboard that would require me to use a lot of force to get a response. Some keys also become almost entirely unresponsive (particularly the 'w' key due to playing a lot of FPS) which would result in my raging like a champion. Based on this I fell that the MX Brown or Red would be best since it requires less force but I will consider the Black if I have to.
I took a look at the K90 and it does contain a lot of features that I am looking for (The main features I really want are macro keys, a backlight and mechanical keys) but I find it a bit...ugly haha. BTW I also have a $50 gift card for Newegg along with a decent amount of cash so Amazon isn't only place I can shop, just a preference due to the amount of giftcards I have for it. If I have to buy a keyboard from Newegg I'll just buy a mouse and/or headset from Amazon.

No worries, I'm glad I could help smile.gif My first mechanical keyboard was a steelseries 7G with MX Black switches. I loved it and was blown away by the build quality of the keyboard. Unfortunately, one of the switches broke and I had to RMA it. While I was waiting for the RMA to go through, I bought a Rosewill RK-9000RE with Red switches and loved it so much, then when I got my replacement 7G, I just sold it on Amazon. I personally have never tried MX Browns, but I hear they are not as good for gaming as Blacks/Reds. I have used MX Blues for gaming, and I didn't like it (I actually did not really like the blues for typing either, lol).

Anyway, my point is that I still believe the MX Red switches are best. As far as keyboards with Macro keys are concerned, you are quite limited to what you can buy since mechanical keyboards have usually been for simply typing or POS, gaming is a very recent addition to the mechanical world, so not many manufacturers actually make a gaming mechanical keyboard.

Razer is the most popular, but I have already gone over their keyboards (good luck trying to find a Stealth edition with MX Browns if you try to get one of those; they are hard to find), and if you don't like the look of the Corsair that's fine and I understand (I don't like the way they look either). Another option you have for a mechanical w/macros is the AZIO Levetron Mech4, but it uses MX Black switches and I think it is rather ugly as well, lol. However, off the top of my head, I don't know of any other mechanical keyboard that has macro keys other than ones made by Cherry, but those are POS keyboards and cost upwards of $300. The Mionix Zibal 60 has a backlight, but I have heard stories of the backlighting being horrible and the build-quality is just down right embarrasing.

Your best bet then would be to buy a Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth. Although they are extremely hard to find, you might get lucky smile.gif

I think you're right about MX Red being best for gaming now that I think about it. The thing is I do a lot of programming since it's my major and will become my profession in the near future so ease of typing is also very important. Are the MX Reds good for typing as well? I'm going to do a bit of googling quick and see if I can find anything to my liking. I'm going to have to decide between the K90 or the BlackWidow.
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Alright so I decided that the Black Window Stealth is my best bet, it has the best combination of features and switches that I would like to use. The problem is I can't find it on Amazon or Newegg. frown.gif Is the only way to buy the BW Stealth through the Razor website?
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I just picked up a Corsair K90 from Fry's for about $107 out the door. I've had it for about 15 minutes now, and I do like it.

The sound of the keys is there, and they make a good click when you press down all the way, but not like the sound of blue switches.

The back lighting is great, with 3 different modes (low, medium, high), and the keyboard is bright.

I am with you on the color though, because I don't really like the silver, and the black macro keys.

The macro keys are nice, and fully programmable. You can have it do a set of keystrokes, or open an application, or cut/copy/paste.

I do notice the keys feel a bit dull with the finish. They are not glossy, and if you have any moisture on your fingers they will smear on it, but it's easy to get off.

Feels a lot different to type on (I'm coming from an Eclipse 3), and I can't tell you how many mistakes I have made typing this. But that comes with every new keyboard.

Other than that, it feels like a nice keyboard. My only gripe is the color. I still haven't decided if I am going to keep it or not. It's either this, or a G510.
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