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6 months...oh the wait...these demanding console ports really require more juice... tongue.gif

This is a false argument too. So you are saying the six or more month wait shouldn't matter b/c most AAA titles are multi-platform releases that don't need much gpu anyway? So then why does it matter if the HD7000 series is out? why not just use GTX480's and HD5870's?

Even if your argument was valid (it isn't, as there are several games that even an HD7970 can't max at high resolutions) we are talking about which card is fastest, today. Today that card is the HD7970. In six months what will it be? Who knows, we'll find out when silicon hits the test bench, won't we?
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Wow I just realized that the 7970 beat the 580 score by ONE. 2718.74 to 2717.17. Just goes to show that AMD continues to be terrible at running DX11, tessellation specifically. Can barely squeak out a victory against last generations hardware.

Did you happen to check the clocks of the gtx580 that had the other score? HD7970 has better tessellation than gtx580.

The other thing a lot of people don't realize I think is that AMD's strategy since the HD4000 series has been small die. The Nvidia die size, the actual gpu size, is roughly 33% larger. That means that all other things being equal an Nvidia card should be 33% faster than a same node AMD card. The fact that that is not the case says a lot about AMD's recent designs.

The smaller die size means that they can lower the price and still make money(when Nvidia gives them a reason to expect big slashes in price on the new cards). It also means they have a better shot at lower temps or lower fan noise and lower power draw. It also allows them to easily stick two on an x2 board.

So you are talking about a huge difference in percentage of overclock and pretty large difference in die size. When you put it all together the HD7970 is a very impressive graphics card and clearly for anyone looking at the $500-$550 range is best choice to make.
Edited by Mygaffer - 12/29/11 at 12:50am
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Any info based on the GTX 780 is pure speculation guys. Whether or not Nvidia will regain the crown remains to be seen. Till then, let the 7970 have it's moment in the spotlight. Bravo AMD smile.gif.

Also, keep in mind that when AMD's 5-series and Nvidia's 4-series were launched, they were pretty well matched against each other. Both were based on brand new architectures and AMD's then-flagship card, the 5970 was much more powerful than Nvidia's then-flagship card, the GTX 480(albeit the 5970 had two GPUs, a single 5870 still gave decent competition). Tessellation was where AMD was seriously lacking. The GTX 400 series were major power hogs and ran REALLY hot. Nvidia, thus decided to COMPLETELY refresh and modify the Fermi architecture and hit hard with the GTX 500 series. AMD, on the other hand, were still riding on the success of the 5-series and never really refreshed anything. They just relaunched the 5-series under the 6-series, with slightly better tessellation performance and higher opengl support. So it was never really anything new, unlike what Nvidia did. Hell, the 5850 was just as powerful as the 6870. So it wasn't really fair to compare the two series against each other, since AMD's architecture was never really boosted, as Nvidia's was. NOW AMD's gone all out with a BRAND NEW architecture, which should have originally been the case during the release of the 6-series. So really can't say AMD's competing against Nvidia's "last generation" of cards. I'm not saying that the GTX 780 won't beat the 7970. i'm just saying that for now, it's pure speculation and nothing more.
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It will be gtx780 vs HD8970 lol.
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AMD 7xxx series (we already saw what can do) vs nVidia 7xx series (Is this really exist?, just rumors until now)
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http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1559

7970 hits 1650mhz with custom voltage, 14.2k graphics score in 3dmark11.
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Awesome for AMD. Bravo! thumbsupsmiley.png

Me thinks AMD should let the GPU team work on Bulldozer. Maybe they can make sense of that mess.
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http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1559
7970 hits 1650mhz with custom voltage, 14.2k graphics score in 3dmark11.

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I would like to see that too, maybe the GPU team can help in the BD fix biggrin.gif
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Why is everyone complaining about waiting 6-8 months for the Nvidia GTX 700 series?

First the 580 was released November 2010...
Then the 6970 was supposed to compete only to hear that it was a competitor for the 480's and 570's...

Then more than a year later, the 7970's come out as the fastest GPU which should be no surprise...

I am still glad with my 580 purchase as it still competes and running strong and can gladly wait til the gtx 700 series...
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No surprise there. Something would be drastically wrong if it didn't outperform the GTX 580.
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Who cares what Nvidia is going to come out with in August? Its Still December! I mean, you might as well say "the 7970's ain't jack 'cause the Geforce 980 is gonna own it in two years!" Of course new hardware will always come along eventually but that doesn't help anybody who wants the fastest single-gpu card available for the whole first half of 2012....

Btw, congrats to AMD for another record!
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