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Bookshelves have bass drivers as well
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When Bookselfs are this expensive, they should be out on stands. Standing Speakers and Book shelfs have slightly different audio personalities. Point is the bookshelves need are very solid heavy base, if you set them on the desk, you will get vibrations that ruin the sound.
I think that good stereo speakers have enough authority and bass to watch a film properly but 5.1 and 2.1 systems sound terrible with music. If you have ever listened to a bose system hopefully you ll think the music sounds terrible.
A good sound card is just a good DAC, I have the asus xonar essence stx running a digital signal into a better DAC. I have it simply for the 124 SNR ratio and EM shielding. It is fantastic as a DAC as well though, and given its price is probably the best, cheapest upgrade I ever bought.

Due to the realities of the room, the fronts (and center) are going on a desk and any surounds are going on stands.
I have a rarher chintzy 5.1 computer speaker system, and even with the boominess of the sub, I can't agree that it ruins music. Frequency response is crap, the highs are washed out and the lows are muddy, but neither the sub nor the surround speakers do anything specific to ruin the sound beyond the fact that the whole thing is cheap, but the surrounds are nice to have.
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Sounds like you will prefer 5.1 then

Just in the shop ask to listen to a pair of stereo speakers that cost the same as the 5.1 set

that comparison will divulge everything that myself and astrallite are debating over
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Unless you are running full range floorstanding speakers, not running a subwoofer is losing a critical part of the music--the beat and rythmn.


 

I personally run 7.1 (2 floorstanders, 5 sattelites, 1 subwoofer) and drop the sub down some when playing music.

 

Good subwoofers are great for catching the lows that floorstanders don't generally get, but you need to set them up right otherwise they will just sound out of synch, especially at high volumes.

 

Also, in general, while it's great to spend a ton of cash on an audio setup be aware that just because it's expensive that doesn't mean it neccessarily sounds great. I've had better some sounding audio gear from some of the cheaper stuff I've bought in my life, though that's not to say expensive gear is bad but more to say that buying audio should be done with your ears and not your wallet.

 

What HiFi is a great guide, and although you're from the US I would also suggest checking out the Richer Sounds website as they may give you a good idea of some good quality stuff that can be affordable aswell (they are a highly reknowned Audio retailer in the UK and are normally where I buy my kit from, or at least look for it).

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post #25 of 37
Bi-amping is really only done right with an active crossover feeding your different drivers.You have to open up your speakers, take out the passive crossover, use an active crossover and then connect your amps to the drivers.

Really not worth it for all but the most high end home setups or people who are just really into this stuff.
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Due to the realities of the room, the fronts (and center) are going on a desk and any surounds are going on stands.
I have a rarher chintzy 5.1 computer speaker system, and even with the boominess of the sub, I can't agree that it ruins music. Frequency response is crap, the highs are washed out and the lows are muddy, but neither the sub nor the surround speakers do anything specific to ruin the sound beyond the fact that the whole thing is cheap, but the surrounds are nice to have.

There are foam risers you can pick up to decouple the speakers from your desk and raise the tweeters to ear level

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-SpeakerDude-Speaker-Isolation-Platforms/dp/B00266HBSU

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Good subwoofers are great for catching the lows that floorstanders don't generally get, but you need to set them up right otherwise they will just sound out of synch, especially at high volumes.

That's why you use Room EQ.
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post #27 of 37
People, please don't post reviews of anything without measurements. I smh every time I read a "review" without a response graph or noise measurements. That goes for DACs and amps as well. Subjectivity is fine, but you need hard numbers.


And I wouldn't call a 6.5" driver on a bookshelf speaker a "bass" driver, unless it's a 2.5 or 3 way setup. By then, it's crossed the bookshelf line. To get adequate bass you will need nice speakers (derp) and a lot of power so your amp doesn't crap itself during low notes.

OP are you planning to have a dedicated HT setup with your computer or will the speakers just be going on your desk? That'll decide if a receiver is even worth it.
Edited by Eugenester - 12/29/11 at 2:56pm
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Well I'm pretty sure any self-respecting audio enthusiast knows What Hifi is nothing more than a shill advertising site and it's "reviews" aren't much more than product brochures.
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Well I'm pretty sure any self-respecting audio enthusiast knows What Hifi is nothing more than a shill advertising site and it's "reviews" aren't much more than product brochures.

I'm glad you posted this, I was about to mention it. Take everything you read on WHF with a pinch of salt (and some tongue.gif).
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I take every review with a grain of sand, and make sure to check multiple professional reviews as well as scan through the customer reviews (tossing out the guys who are obviously technically inept)
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OP are you planning to have a dedicated HT setup with your computer or will the speakers just be going on your desk? That'll decide if a receiver is even worth it.
Is there a good way to drive a decent speaker setup without a receiver or separate amp? I haven't seem a computer speaker set that puts out anything better than decent sound.

Anyways, I am planning to improve the sound of an otherwise normal computer. I sit at a desk and use a few monitors. I have a TV Tuner card attached, and watch movies fairly often, so both that, and game performance are important; as mentioned before, I listen to music whenever I am sitting at my computer and not watching something. Speakers are only really silent the same time the screens are blank.

Whatever setup I have, the left right and center speakers would be under or to the sides of my monitors on the desk, and any surrounds would likely be on stands (or at least the right one would, I have an Ikea Galant and only the left side speaker can sit on the desk and be all the way to the side of me); the sub would be on the floor (carpet). It's not a tiny room, but is on the small side, so I don't need a large setup, and combined with the small distances, I doubt I will need that much power.
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