Originally Posted by astrallite
Originally Posted by Lifeshield
I don't see your point here. I quite clearly stated "you need to set them up right".
You also said that you "drop the sub down some for music" followed up by "they will just sound out of synch, especially at high volumes." My response: run Auddessy/YPAO/etc, and you don't need to drop the sub.
You're assuming I drop the sub because it's out of synch at a loud volume? I drop the sub because I set it differently between music and cinema (I have the sub at a higher volume when watching movies with more midrange going through the floorstanders, with music I put more low end through the floorstanders, using the sub for depth rather than filling).
I didn't put the two within the same sentence for a reason.
Originally Posted by Eugenester
And I don't like user reviews unless they're at Partsexpress and are more than a 300 words. It's kind of hard to differentiate between incompetence when all the reviewer says is "it sounds good."
I don't think anyone with half a braincell would just go off a "it's good, buy it now" review. Give the human race some credit (ok some would but not everyone is like that).
Personally whatever I'm shopping for I'll check out numerous sites, and numerous reviews, customer and professional. The ones I take most specific note of are the complaints (some of which are just funny, lol).
And I would not say the best judgement is your own ears, since there is a kind of vague standard in which a 'good" speaker is judged on. Something may sound bad to someone else because they might have bad hearing or just aren't accustomed to what they're hearing. That's also part of the "break-in" process.
I can see your point here, but I still reccommend actually listening to a speaker. Just looking at tech sheets and chart comparisons doesn't quite cut it when you are shopping for "audio". It has to be listened to. If you've got an ear for audio you know what you want, you know what your're looking for and break in or not you just know if something is right for you or not. If you haven't got that ear then a £40 sattelite system from Asda will probably do the trick (no that's not a reccommendation, lol).
And on top of that, if a £2000 set of speakers sounds the same as a £200 set of speakers to someone then they are hardly going to justify spending £2000 on a set of speakers going by audio test sheets and comparison sheets. That's not to say it's not something worth looking at, but that's something you just need an ear for aswell. Those charts mean nothing without the ears to discern the difference.
So yes, judge with your ears, test them thoroughly. Get them in your house for a trial (any reputable audio supplier will give you this option). Speakers are not something that should be bought on paper alone (or bought blindly on impulse or faith). I'm a firm believer in trying before you buy in this department (and nothing will ever change that).
Edited by Lifeshield - 12/30/11 at 1:11pm