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Atom has been at the heart of nearly all netbooks since the segment's inception. We've seen only one major platform shift since then: from the original 2008 Atom platform to Pine Trail. Pine Trail integrated the GPU and memory controller without significantly changing the Atom architecture. Today Intel is officially announcing its next major netbook platform shift: Cedar Trail.


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Full specs in the article. Main focus is on power consumption improvements, GPU and video decode support and performance .
 
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Good. Atom netbooks are awfully slow.
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Shoot... I was really hoping this would be a nice upgrade over the current Atom but it seems it's basically the same thing frown.gif

Looks like my next netbook is still going to be an E-350.
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Shoot... I was really hoping this would be a nice upgrade over the current Atom but it seems it's basically the same thing frown.gif
Looks like my next netbook is still going to be an E-350.

The CPU is basically the same, only clocked faster - the N2800 that is. The main improvements are GPU - let's see how stable and usable the drivers are, the video decoding, and, of course, the improved battery life and thermals.

The E-350 is nice, but is uses way more power. From what I've read Netbooks using the E-350 and E-450 have the fan always on. If AMD can transition the E-450 to 32nm, or even better, to 28nm, that would be interesting.
 
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The CPU is basically the same, only clocked faster - the N2800 that is. The main improvements are GPU - let's see how stable and usable the drivers are, the video decoding, and, of course, the improved battery life and thermals.
The E-350 is nice, but is uses way more power. From what I've read Netbooks using the E-350 and E-450 have the fan always on. If AMD can transition the E-450 to 32nm, or even better, to 28nm, that would be interesting.

AMD already has the C-60, a 9W dual-core netbook CPU with graphics that can do 1080p video perfectly and most models get ~6+ hours battery.

Anyways the 28nm replacement to the E-350 is supposed to have dual- and quad-core versions at ~18W, with 7000 series graphics. Should come in mid-2012 though I haven't followed it closely.

My main point, Intel has tough competition, they'll need to bring >8 hours battery on a 6-cell in a 10" netbook to compete with AMD's offering, and even then they're forced to compete on price. These new Atoms should be real interesting if they make it into Windows 8 tablets though.
 
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AMD already has the C-60, a 9W dual-core netbook CPU with graphics that can do 1080p video perfectly and most models get ~6+ hours battery.
Anyways the 28nm replacement to the E-350 is supposed to have dual- and quad-core versions at ~18W, with 7000 series graphics. Should come in mid-2012 though I haven't followed it closely.
My main point, Intel has tough competition, they'll need to bring >8 hours battery on a 6-cell in a 10" netbook to compete with AMD's offering, and even then they're forced to compete on price. These new Atoms should be real interesting if they make it into Windows 8 tablets though.

The C-60 is a very nince APU, but from what I've read the 9w TDP can go up to 18w power consumption if you try to game on it. Sure, it' not quite capable of gaming the recent AAA games, but you might get away with those less demanding games and indie games.

As to it being able to do 1080p, can it really ? The Turbo Boost to 400 Mhz on the GPU might do the trick; I read that the C-50 sometimes couldn't exactly make it to 1080p with 100% fluidity. All I know is that when both CPU and GPU are being maxed out, it behaves exactly like a C-50, because there is no headroom for Turbo Boost on either CPU or GPU. I guess when decoding video the CPU won't be used as much, leaving spare thermal headroom to apply Turbo Boost to the GPU.

It would be very interesting if AMD comes out with a dual core at 28nm with lower than 9w TDP, and leaving the 18w TDP to the quad core. As to the Atom bringing 8 hours of battery life, that is easy, I've read they will be able to last up to 14 hours on a 6 cell battery. My HP Netbook powered by a 45nm Atom Dual Core N550 has a 66W/h battery (it's one of the heavier Netbooks though becase of the high capacity battery, at around 1.4 kg) and it can get a maximum of 11 hours, typically 8, although I've never really measured it because I lose track of time when using it as it usually lasts me more than two days between workloads.

As to them making it into Windows 8 Tablets, they will actually also make it into smartphones, and there is a thread for that right here.
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