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Hey OC.net,

long time lurker....have a dilemma I could use some help with.

Firstly, I'm not a gamer nor an overclocker. I am building a mini-ITX DAW that will be an HTPC secondarily. My issue is HEAT.

I'm not going to bore you with my whole setup..just the pertinent stuff.

It's going in a C-64 Case. Here are a few pics to show the space issues I'm dealing with.

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I WANT to put an i7-2600S 65w under the hood....but I have to cool this thing on air....and frankly....the ventilation sucks on this case.

The biggest cpu cooler I can fit wouldceither be a Scythe Kozuti or a Thermaltake x3 Slim.

Worst case scenario..I'll dump an i5-2500T in it...but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it would be opposed to my current E8500 Core2.

How much of a problem will heat be ya think?

Inside I will have two SSD's
8gb of 1.25 GSkill ultra low voltage ddr3 RAM
And a notebook optical drive

NO video card...gonna be using the sandy bridge gpu (i know, cringe) lol.

And as stated before...No gaming..basically gonna be a DAW. The most intensive program will be FL Studio..with about 15-20 plugins and 25 tracks running simultaeneously. Other than that...just browsing the web and streaming media to my hdtv.

Just to give you an idea of how hit these units get...people have reported upwards of 65c with an integrated Atom/Ion board...OUCH. (although..not sure what kind of fan/heatsink combo, if any, were used)..I know the i5/i7's are much more efficient

Does anybody have any advice for me? Thanks in advance!

Edit: whoa! Sorry for the rant! LOL
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My advice? Get an i3 2120, it has the Intel 3000 GPU and should be more than enough to meet your needs and will run quiet and cool. Honestly it will be more than enough for your needs, I suppose if you absolutely need quad core then go with the i5 2400, but honestly there really isn't much of a need to go with super low voltage processors as SB already runs very cool.
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Do you really need a full quad?

I think the 2500T as a 45w CPU should be okay. How much airflow does that case actually have? I only see a small fan (which probably sounds like a jet engine) on the back, but I've never seen/used one hands-on.
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My advice? Get an i3 2120, it has the Intel 3000 GPU and should be more than enough to meet your needs and will run quiet and cool. Honestly it will be more than enough for your needs, I suppose if you absolutely need quad core then go with the i5 2400, but honestly there really isn't much of a need to go with super low voltage processors as SB already runs very cool.

The i5-2400 is a 95w CPU, and the i3-2120 is a 65w CPU. The 2500T is lower than both of those at only 45w. I think in a case with very very little airflow, that difference can be significant.
    
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IIRC the e8500 is a 65W rated CPU, with a 65W 2600S I think you should be fine with whatever your current cooling solution is. You can always downclock a little if it's getting too hot but it shouldn't if you have a similar cooler and enough airflow through it.

If your e8400 is currently in another case ignore the above, if intel still do server coolers that are made entirely of copper you could try getting one of them and just push as much air through it as possible in order to cool your chip.
65W is very little heat at the end of the day so if you can get a decent bit of airflow it should be fine.

EDIT: If the 2500T is 45W, get that. It'll run cooler and should be plenty for a HTPC and audio creation.
Edited by Mike-IRL - 12/29/11 at 8:08am
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post #5 of 7
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Hey dude,

Thanks for the reply!

Ughhhh man....I have resisted the i3 move because it really is kind of a parallel move from a core2 E8500.

Plus I have a semi-obsession to see how much power I can fit inside this lunchbox.
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Do you really need a full quad?
I think the 2500T as a 45w CPU should be okay. How much airflow does that case actually have? I only see a small fan (which probably sounds like a jet engine) on the back, but I've never seen/used one hands-on.
The i5-2400 is a 95w CPU, and the i3-2120 is a 65w CPU. The 2500T is lower than both of those at only 45w. I think in a case with very very little airflow, that difference can be significant.

Honestly,

I don't NEED a full quad...but....I would like to stay relatively futureproof. And I might be better served with a higher clocked dual core opposed to a slower quad...possibly
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IIRC the e8500 is a 65W rated CPU, with a 65W 2600S I think you should be fine with whatever your current cooling solution is. You can always downclock a little if it's getting too hot but it shouldn't if you have a similar cooler and enough airflow through it.
If your e8400 is currently in another case ignore the above, if intel still do server coolers that are made entirely of copper you could try getting one of them and just push as much air through it as possible in order to cool your chip.
65W is very little heat at the end of the day so if you can get a decent bit of airflow it should be fine.

yea my e8500 is in a mid atx tower.

yea airflow sucks in the c64 case tbh... I might have to remove the supplied card reader and add two 40mm fans in a push/pull design...

Hopefully not tho
post #7 of 7
Its not a side move as the i3 has hyper threading, and SB is significantly faster clock for clock - plus it should run cooler (the one i've used on stock cooler ran at 40c, even if it ran at 50 - 60c under full load, i don't think you're going to be doing heavy load typically).
Edited by appleg33k85 - 12/29/11 at 1:00pm
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