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Hi Guys,

If this belongs in phase change sorry.....

I was at a customer today and saw an aquarium water chiller and started wondering the possibilities! Anyone ever run one? Im just starting to do my research but looks like it might work, smallest one I saw was for 10gallons cooling and said 4-6 degrees but didnt say if it was C or F, but there seems to be a lot of others for up to 25gallons and from reviews state 70F no problem on several gallons. Im not sure yet if that is the minimum value but with much smaller capacities like 1-3 gallons and digital display it could be controlled easily.

For those interested here is a link and a pic

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online store: Ranging from $115-$1000+
http://www.marinedepot.com/chillers__index-ap.html

edit:
Custom PC magazine did a review on this in 2010 with an intel cpu, amazing results in temp, slightly higher overclock.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/4

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I considered one for my Mineral oil build but
A: They're too expensive for what was essentially a proof of concept (as well as my Senior project xD)
B: I don't think they'd be capable of cooling the heat put out by a computer
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So you want to use the chiller to cool down the water, or are you planning for mineral oil cooling?

Keep in mind you are using electricity to remove the heat, and while I don't own a chiller, I suspect they do draw noticeable power. And I too and skeptical about its ability to remove the amount heat from PC
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IIRC, a few members here use aquarium chiller for PC purpose.

 

Read these related threads:-

http://www.overclock.net/t/951198/water-chiller-opinions-needed

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/997518/where-can-i-get-a-decent-chiller

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1058805/water-chillers

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140252/thoughts-on-chilled-water-loop

 

The link to the German review that I mentioned in these threads appear to be down.

However, be sure to read the bit-tech.net review here:-

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/3

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I would like to use it for water cooling, possibly eliminating the need for radiators depending on how efficient it is. The thing is these units for 25gallons I imagine would easily do it, if not they have higher capacity units too, using that with smaller amounts of fluid should make it more efficient at keeping it say 20C....I want to try it out but its an investment I cant gamble on at the moment. I figure A small 5-10gallon aquarium, the chiller unit, quick disconnect fittings and hose is all I would need.

found this review with one of the aquarium chillers lol gonna read it over, but temps were AMAZING!!

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/4
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Originally Posted by windfire View Post

IIRC, a few members here use aquarium chiller for PC purpose.

Read these related threads:-
http://www.overclock.net/t/951198/water-chiller-opinions-needed

http://www.overclock.net/t/997518/where-can-i-get-a-decent-chiller

http://www.overclock.net/t/1058805/water-chillers

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140252/thoughts-on-chilled-water-loop

The link to the German review that I mentioned in these threads appear to be down.
However, be sure to read the bit-tech.net review here:-
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/3

lol didnt see your post before finding the custom pc article, thanks! +rep
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The only issue I see with using an aquarium chiller for PC cooling is that, without adding some thermal storage, there may be longevity issues with the units.
The things are designed to have relatively long on and off cycles maintaining the temperature of a relatively large mass of water within a set range.
If you just hook one straight up to a PC, the relatively small mass of water would cause frequent start/stop cycles, which is not good for the long term health of the compressor and controls.

You can get around that by using the chiller to cool an insulated "tank" of water, like an ice chest full of water, then using the chilled water from the ice chest to cool the PC.
This would give you the appropriate length run cycles to keep the machine running healthy and happy for a long time. wink.gif

I do HVAC/R work for a living, and have some experience with process cooling and small chillers for cooling various types of machines and electrical devices.
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Quote:
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The only issue I see with using an aquarium chiller for PC cooling is that, without adding some thermal storage, there may be longevity issues with the units.
The things are designed to have relatively long on and off cycles maintaining the temperature of a relatively large mass of water within a set range.
If you just hook one straight up to a PC, the relatively small mass of water would cause frequent start/stop cycles, which is not good for the long term health of the compressor and controls.
You can get around that by using the chiller to cool an insulated "tank" of water, like an ice chest full of water, then using the chilled water from the ice chest to cool the PC.
This would give you the appropriate length run cycles to keep the machine running healthy and happy for a long time. wink.gif
I do HVAC/R work for a living, and have some experience with process cooling and small chillers for cooling various types of machines and electrical devices.

Right on. HVAC stuff is desgned not to run continously. I imagine a compressor wouldn't last long if run around the clock.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by breenemeister View Post

Right on. HVAC stuff is desgned not to run continously. I imagine a compressor wouldn't last long if run around the clock.

Actually, continuous around the clock operation, with a steady load, is the absolute ideal for component longevity in a refrigeration system.
It is the starting and stopping that causes problems.

Since systems are virtually never perfectly matched to the load, and load varies, the next best thing is to minimize the start/stop cycles by having longish on and off cycles.
Edited by Caleal - 12/30/11 at 9:45pm
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post #10 of 23
ppc-s sells one.

long term running should be fine as they are purpose built chillers , made to run 90-95% of the time.


seen em used before and ive seen them used for much greater heat loads than a computer.

altho running with a large res could help with the insane ammount of noise that chillers bring with them to the party
Edited by NKrader - 12/30/11 at 8:04am
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