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Looks good!
But I have to say I dislike the big swoop of tubing going to the 580. I would get another rotary fitting if I were you and angle it toward the res and do a much shorter bit of tubing.

I was thinking the same, it all looks much better in person. For my first attempt its pretty darn good if i may say so myself tongue.gif Thanks for the construct. criticism though, i do agree with you num. When money is better well im thinking of adding a 240 to the bottom anyway so ill do it then stick a 45 on the outlet on the gpu or something.
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Sweet !!!!!! Looking great now. Love it.
Oh yeah by the way are those EK fittings 1/2 x 3/4? not sure if you remember back when i built my White Phantom but i bought all the EK ones and they only had one size at the time and it was in mm and the Hose wouldn't fit.I had to send them all back. I was so bummed because i loved them.

Thanks badomen, you have been a true inspiration to my build, thanks. Yes, they are those exact fittings. They are bloody beautiful, which ones did you have? the nikel ones of black plated?

Also, does this look ok? everything is at stock i just fired it up eager to find out what the temps were.

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I was thinking the same, it all looks much better in person. For my first attempt its pretty darn good if i may say so myself tongue.gif Thanks for the construct. criticism though, i do agree with you num. When money is better well im thinking of adding a 240 to the bottom anyway so ill do it then stick a 45 on the outlet on the gpu or something.
Also, does this look ok? everything is at stock i just fired it up eager to find out what the temps were.
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Oh if you're planning on adding another 240 to the bottom anyway then I wouldn't bother buying another fitting now either. Although you will likely need a couple 45 swivels when you do add that 240 rad because of the angle.

Those temps are good depending on your clock speed and vCore. Run the Heaven benchmark to find out your 580 temp.

Couple of things to note about your temps though. 1) don't bother with furmark or the evga tester (or anything else similar to those) the 500 series doesn't get heated up by them at all. You need to run a bench like Heaven to OC a 500 series card. 2) remember what I was telling (well arguing really) omen about using IBT with AVX for a Sandybridge chip. You won't see true stress test temps using prime95. Keep up the good work. thumb.gif
 
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I was thinking the same, it all looks much better in person. For my first attempt its pretty darn good if i may say so myself tongue.gif Thanks for the construct. criticism though, i do agree with you num. When money is better well im thinking of adding a 240 to the bottom anyway so ill do it then stick a 45 on the outlet on the gpu or something.
Also, does this look ok? everything is at stock i just fired it up eager to find out what the temps were.
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Oh if you're planning on adding another 240 to the bottom anyway then I wouldn't bother buying another fitting now either. Although you will likely need a couple 45 swivels when you do add that 240 rad because of the angle.

Those temps are good depending on your clock speed and vCore. Run the Heaven benchmark to find out your 580 temp.

Couple of things to note about your temps though. 1) don't bother with furmark or the evga tester (or anything else similar to those) the 500 series doesn't get heated up by them at all. You need to run a bench like Heaven to OC a 500 series card. 2) remember what I was telling (well arguing really) omen about using IBT with AVX for a Sandybridge chip. You won't see true stress test temps using prime95. Keep up the good work. thumb.gif
Okay, and how many real life applications do you know that can even come close to stressing a CPU as much as Prime95? Even encoding using x264 constantly for hours on end isn't going to stress it as much as prime95 does, so why stress it even more than that? You're already testing it to be stable at a higher load than you're ever going to see in a real life application, stressing it any more is just unnecessary.
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I was thinking the same, it all looks much better in person. For my first attempt its pretty darn good if i may say so myself tongue.gif Thanks for the construct. criticism though, i do agree with you num. When money is better well im thinking of adding a 240 to the bottom anyway so ill do it then stick a 45 on the outlet on the gpu or something.
Thanks badomen, you have been a true inspiration to my build, thanks. Yes, they are those exact fittings. They are bloody beautiful, which ones did you have? the nikel ones of black plated?
Also, does this look ok? everything is at stock i just fired it up eager to find out what the temps were.
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EDIT: another huge photo dump later again

No Rowey at the time i couldn't find any 1/2" X 3/4" EK Fittings i believe they sent me 10mm or something i don't remember.But i loved them and went to put my build together and realized they were wrong frown.gif My fittings are all Bitspower now. But i loved the looks of the EK ones.Wonder is they just started making them in 1/2" x 3/4" because when i had to send mine back i was told they didnt make them in that size or something so i had to switch to the Bitspower ones. Which are also very nice but still i never did understand why i couldn't get the EK 1/2 x 3/4 ones?
   
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Okay, and how many real life applications do you know that can even come close to stressing a CPU as much as Prime95? Even encoding using x264 constantly for hours on end isn't going to stress it as much as prime95 does, so why stress it even more than that? You're already testing it to be stable at a higher load than you're ever going to see in a real life application, stressing it any more is just unnecessary.

Umm not to get off topic, but BF3. Why is this even a question? Sure if you don't care if your CPU is truly stable, go for it use what ever you want to stress test. Or for that matter don't use anything at all. OC it, use it, if it crashes nbd right? thumb.gif
 
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Okay, and how many real life applications do you know that can even come close to stressing a CPU as much as Prime95? Even encoding using x264 constantly for hours on end isn't going to stress it as much as prime95 does, so why stress it even more than that? You're already testing it to be stable at a higher load than you're ever going to see in a real life application, stressing it any more is just unnecessary.

Umm not to get off topic, but BF3. Why is this even a question? Sure if you don't care if your CPU is truly stable, go for it use what ever you want to stress test. Or for that matter don't use anything at all. OC it, use it, if it crashes nbd right? thumb.gif
Surely "truly stable" just means that it's stable for anything you're going to use it for?
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Okay, and how many real life applications do you know that can even come close to stressing a CPU as much as Prime95? Even encoding using x264 constantly for hours on end isn't going to stress it as much as prime95 does, so why stress it even more than that? You're already testing it to be stable at a higher load than you're ever going to see in a real life application, stressing it any more is just unnecessary.

Umm not to get off topic, but BF3. Why is this even a question? Sure if you don't care if your CPU is truly stable, go for it use what ever you want to stress test. Or for that matter don't use anything at all. OC it, use it, if it crashes nbd right? thumb.gif
Surely "truly stable" just means that it's stable for anything you're going to use it for?

I consider a cpu stable when it survives like 8 hours of Prime and Linx. Yeah, you're not going to ever stress it at that level normally, but at least to me it gives a certain peace of mind that it's not going to crash. I rather spend the extra time testing it when I'm at it, and then forget it after I know it's stable.
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Ok last reply about this in Roweys build log. In fact Rowey feel free to have a mod remove all this as it's rather OT.
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Surely "truly stable" just means that it's stable for anything you're going to use it for?

Correct. Do you know the exact load that will ever be placed on your CPU at any point in time in the future? No? Hmm maybe then you would want to stress it with the hardest calculations available at the time then? If you people don't want to use IBT then don't. However I have had OC's that were stable in Prime and failed IBT rather quickly. Also I had BF3 temps go higher than Prime.
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I consider a cpu stable when it survives like 8 hours of Prime and Linx. Yeah, you're not going to ever stress it at that level normally, but at least to me it gives a certain peace of mind that it's not going to crash. I rather spend the extra time testing it when I'm at it, and then forget it after I know it's stable.

It's that peace of mind that I'm talking about. I know that I can have multiple applications running at the same time and never have to worry about a blue screen. That's why I use the harshest test available.
 
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I consider a cpu stable when it survives like 8 hours of Prime and Linx. Yeah, you're not going to ever stress it at that level normally, but at least to me it gives a certain peace of mind that it's not going to crash. I rather spend the extra time testing it when I'm at it, and then forget it after I know it's stable.
It's that peace of mind that I'm talking about. I know that I can have multiple applications running at the same time and never have to worry about a blue screen. That's why I use the harshest test available.
Indeed. And rather have it crash when you're at it than when you're in the middle of something (more or less) important. What I did was put a overclock I thought was stable and run prime overnight while I slept. If it passed, then I left it running Linx when I went to school. Didn't really take any "extra" time and didn't have to worry about it crashing due to unstable OC.
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