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Hello,

i'm new here, to the board and to SFF.
My old rig is quite old (Athlon X2 64) and not even active.

Currently i'm planning a new system, but as i'm new to SFF, i would like to ask for a little help.
I want to use the Silverstone SG05-Case, as i want to make the rig as small as possible.

Parts that will be used for sure:
- Zatoc H67-ITX Wifi
- i5 2500
- 2*4 GB DDR3-Ram (Corsair, nothing special)
- 3.5" HDD

Parts I want to use
- Corsair H60

Parts I'm unsure
- HD 6850/6870 or
- GTX 500 Series

First question would be:
Is it possible to use the H60 AND a 3.5" HDD AND one of the desired cards?
I heared the H50 might block the Slimline-Slot in the SG05-Case. Is that also true for the H60?

Also, what Graphics Card would you recommend? Budget is 150-200 Euro (194-259 Dollars)

newby greetings,
cy-one
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post #2 of 32
You will find that the 3.5" HDD bay will be.. for lack of a better term.. 'Consumed' by the H60 Radiator and thus you will not have room practically anywhere else to mount a 3.5" HDD, although there is one place left to simply place a HDD, I'm not sure whether you could fabricate something to mount the HDD in this location.

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A 2.5" SSD or HDD could simply be stuck underneath the radiator using or something similar to double sided tape.

*EDIT* To answer your other questions, I would recommend a GTX 560, Most likely one with a powerful after market cooler.

The slimline drive bay holder seems to be part of the 3.5" Bay, but I'm not sure that the radiator completely blocks the slot, you'll have to look into this.

Good luck on your build!
Edited by ThirtySixNights - 1/1/12 at 6:21am
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post #3 of 32
Why use liquid cooling? You won't be overclocking anyways, so just use the stock cooler and enable a fan profile to reduce the noise.
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It is more a WANT than a NEED.
Dunno about my desktop (inactive atm), but my laptop has temperatures between 60 and 80° celsius. Want something cooler AND more quiet.
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post #5 of 32
The first reply from ThirtySixNights implies that you definitely lose the optical drive, but this is not true. It's easy to rotate the rad and find a shorter graphics card. I have a 560Ti but you can get longer cards in there if the rad is bolted directly to the case. You can also rotate the 3.5" drive so that it is bolted lengthways hanging from the upper brace. All you need is a drill and a 3mm bit that can drill metal.

Check Another little black box for an example of the type of build you are going for. At the end of the thread you can see he is still using the original optical drive mounting. That guy has a 5770 but you can see there is at least 30mm between the end of the card and the rad. Look for gpus where the pci plugs point upwards.
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post #6 of 32
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Mhm, i'll see.
The Graphics Card is definately longer, it'll be a HD 6870, budget-decision.

but i'll try the idea with rotating the 3.5"-drive when i'm at this stage smile.gif

thank all of you smile.gif
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post #7 of 32
If it's a budget decision, better say how much you have to spend, rather than picking the GPU already. You could end up with something that does not fit, while people here could help you find a similar priced/powered alternative. Also it makes a difference whether you are in the States or Europe since some GPU manufacturers only sell to one or the other.
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Europe, budget is in the last sentence of my first post smile.gif

the card should fit really really tight, if not i'll have to cut a little bit of the metal face. wouldn't be visible from the outside.
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post #9 of 32
I had the sapphire 6870 with the aftermarket cooler (not the vapor-X one, but it looks similar) and it had a little room to spare in the SG05.
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Europe, budget is in the last sentence of my first post smile.gif

Aha, sorry I read over that. Well if you are in Europe, you can also consider the Gainward GTX 560 Phantom which is inside your budget and at a tiny 188mm fits perfectly in an SG05. This is the setup that I have, only mine is a 560Ti. I'm happy with the temps and performance.

If you are convinced about the 6870, then you should be careful. The reference card is 241mm which will just fit with the H60 rotated, but many cards are longer. The HIS IceQ series for example looks great, the cards are in your budget, and are one of the few cards with power connectors pointing upwards, but it's 260mm. This would fit the case, but then you can't rotate the rad and you'd have to resort to an external optical drive.

The Sapphire Vapor-X mentioned above is listed at 238mm and seems to have upward connectors, so that seems a much better option.
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