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Hi guys, I'm so happy I found this forum, I hope to get some cool advices here:thumb:
I'm moving to the US to study for 1 year and I really want to buy a new laptop there, since I always had so many problem with my HP Pavilion ( 4 years old laptop). I'm leaving this laptop for my father and I want to buy a new one. I'd like to add that I'm a newbie so be very patient with me Lol.

What is your maximum budget? Let's say $1000, $1200 max. If anyone can recommend something that is not over $1000 it would be great.

What country are you in? Will move to the US.

What will be the uses of this laptop? That's the thing. Half college work (mathlab/excel/engineering softwares), half gaming.

Do you have brand loyalty or care which brands we select for you? Need a known brand (no HP please), since I'm going back to my home country in 1 year and might need someday a reachable customer support.

What screen size do you require? I like my 14 in screen size.

What screen resolution do you require? Have no idea.

Are you looking to buy NEW or would refurbished/recertified/used be okay? New

How long should the battery last? (Under optimal conditions, no movies/games/heavy internet): 3 hours maybe

What games would you like to play with your laptop? And on what settings? I don't play those heavy games like BF3, Skyrim, COD and etc. I like playing sports games, like NBA2k series, Fifa, PES,. I know that these games need good graphic cards like NVIDIA 6600 or greater, ATI x1300 or greater. (keep in mind that all those games, I've played at friend's computer, video game, because my laptop wouldn't run any of these I mentioned)

What operating system do you need? (if any) Windows 7

Is there a certain style of laptop you want? (aluminum, black, gaming, etc.) No

How much hard drive space do you need? I've never used more than 75GB, so more like 200GB, I don't care.

Do you need any special hardware? (blue ray, webcam, specialty ports, etc.) Webcam, USB ports, Bluetooth, just like every laptop has.

Is there anything else we need to know? Well, resuming, I want a really fast computer for work, using internet, doing all the stuff we usually do and be able to play a couple of games without lag.

Thank you in advance!
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I would go for a Lenovo Ideapad Y470. It's the fastest 14" after Alienware M14x. The Ideapad has i3, i5, or i7; and Nvidia 550M graphics (closer to 540M, but between 540M and 555M). I have an i3 and SSD in my laptop, use it for CAD and it's really fast, but of course i5 would help a decent amount for rendering. i7 is probably overkill, but it's as fast as an i5 on 2 threads w/ Turbo Boost, and a lot faster on over 2 threads.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=DDF9ECA3EE7295319F81388519B2B09A&action=init

There might be similar options with AMD graphics, but for engineering work (and laptops in general), I prefer Nvidia, especially with Nvidia Optimus which automatically switches between integrated and discrete graphics. Should get about 5 hours battery, great for a gaming laptop.

edit: Just want to point out, Alienware M14x weighs as much as most 15" laptops, so it's not really fair to compare it to other 14" laptops.
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There isn't many great choices in the <14" range under $1000 that are real great for games, a few that come to mind are, Lenovo y470(gt 550m), acer 3830tg, 4830tg, (both gt 540m). Alienware is the most powerful in that size that I know of with a gt 555m but it'd be way over budget.

If you went up to 15.6" there are many more choices, Lenovo y570(gt 555m), acer 5830tg(gt 540m), hp dv6t(6770m version), samsung 7 15.6"(6750m). I've heard some good things about the Samsung, sounds like it's pretty solid, I've also heard good things about the dv6t, alot of people who haven't used the dv6t are going to say it's bad just because it's hp.

All of these laptops can be configured under $1000.

I have a y470 and it seems to be a pretty good laptop, the gt 550m has played everything so far that i've thrown at it. A lot of people say the quality of Lenovo is great, to me it just seems ok to me, not as good as clevo/sager but I don't think it will fall apart anytime soon. The battery life is decent, I think i'd get around 4-6hr on the battery when not gaming.

edit: I guess the Alienware m14x isn't as high as I thought, $1100, but I don't think it's worth the extra money for the games your playing.
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That Lenovo looks like a great deal, huh? Just for comparison is there any other on the range of that Lenovo, like an ASUS or a Sony, I don't know.... I gotta say that Lenovo caught my eyes!
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Not the best gamer, but it's good in other ways.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP700Z3A-S01US

This one is a White Rhino: awesome, but nearly impossible to find.
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Multimedia_Entertainment/N45SF/

Sonys are nice, but too expensive IMO.

I was gonna say an HP Envy 14, but you don't want HP. Why is that, my HP dv6 is pretty good.

Those are all good alternatives, but I would get a Lenovo Y470 or Y460p over all those though smile.gif

EDIT: Also http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&qscrl=1&q=msi+x460dx&gs_upl=4845l4845l3l5088l1l1l0l0l0l0l195l195l0.1l1l0&um=1&authuser=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1360&bih=667&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1956307349781341589&sa=X&ei=O5UAT5XxKMKtsQKhoM3OAQ&ved=0CGoQ8wIwAQ
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Way under your budget and you may not like the screen

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230134

I have the K53TA which is almost the same hell I have not found anything I can not do with it?

Even high end games like BF3 play.

Older games can hit the ceiling on ultimate settings like Half Life 2
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Way under your budget and you may not like the screen
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230134
I have the K53TA which is almost the same hell I have not found anything I can not do with it?
Even high end games like BF3 play.
Older games can hit the ceiling on ultimate settings like Half Life 2

This too. If you want to save money, an A8 or an A6 will handle anything. My A8 handles Skyrim like a champ: heck, it's hard to tell the difference in image quality between my A8 and my CF 6850 setup.
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Way under your budget and you may not like the screen
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230134
I have the K53TA which is almost the same hell I have not found anything I can not do with it?
Even high end games like BF3 play.
Older games can hit the ceiling on ultimate settings like Half Life 2

Really nice, not too expensive, plus I don`t mind about the screen size, if is a good computer why not?
I was looking at that ASUS K53 and it really seems like another good option!

Another question, is there a big difference between Nvidia and AMD graphics card that I should worry about?
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This too. If you want to save money, an A8 or an A6 will handle anything. My A8 handles Skyrim like a champ: heck, it's hard to tell the difference in image quality between my A8 and my CF 6850 setup.

When you can get an i3 or i5 with discrete graphics for $615 or $680 respectively ($115-180 over an A8), not much point getting an A6/A8 when their per-core performance is >40% slower and graphics aren't even close. Now, an A6 or A8 with dual-graphics is somewhat competitive <$550.

This is an interesting chart of gaming benchmarks - columns for low/med/high, red = unplayable (under 25FPS.. which is way below OCN standards). http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html

6520G benchmark - note it can't play BF2 on medium, and it'll get lower frames on BF3.

Nvidia 555M - Skyrim is barely playable on medium, the 550M is within about 10% so it'll still just barely be playable. http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-555M.41933.0.html

550M - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html
 
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Y470 all the way man. I was going to grab one, but I got too good of a deal for this Y570 off Lenovo outlet. Lenovo has fantastic qualtiy and performance. Way better than Dell or HP or Acer or even ASUS to me. If you want 14" with great performance and quality construction, Y470 has no contest.

I have a thread from last month if you look where I was looking for a laptop for around $400-500. The ASUS K53TA was my number 1 choice before I heard about the Lenovo Y series. Now that I have this Y570, I cannot imagine going with anything else. If you really have $1000 to spend on a laptop and are willing to go 15.6", definitely grab a Sager.
   
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