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I currently own the older version razer lachesis for the last few years.
Its a nice mouse, but as I play in surround and very high resolutions, its not as precise.

I lately stopped playing MMOs (except EvE) and focused on FPS games like BF3 and skyrim (if you call it a FPS rolleyes.gif). So I don't need as many buttons. So the lachesis is no longer on par with the requirements.

So I'm considering getting the mamba, as looks also matters to me.
I don't really dig the G700 looks.
I don't have large hands, and the lachesis is somewhere around the max for comfort. A mouse with a huge bulky butt isn't comfortable at all for me (like the naga).

What other options are there?
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I've had both Mamba for a while and although i don't like to admit it, it is the best mouse i have used. I don't personally love everything about it, since Razer's drivers, and switching between wireless and wired mode sometimes causes some issues. I tried the G700 and sent it back, the amount of buttons don't allow for native binding in windows, anything beyond mouse4/5 will not bind nicely in games. The mamba is not perfect, but it is the best I've used (I need wireless since i am OCD and need organization). If you can live without wireless, more options become available to you, but unfortunately there is no super-mouse as of yet.

Some wired options:
The Deathadder black edition
Zowie's range of mice
The new corsair mice.
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Roccat Kone[+] is the most gorgeous looking mouse I've seen. IMO.
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If you are considering the Mamba for its looks, you better go with the DeathAdder Black Edition. It has a better sensor and looks just as good.
    
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If you are considering the Mamba for its looks, you better go with the DeathAdder Black Edition. It has a better sensor and looks just as good.

I thought the DA BE has a lesser sensor (3500 dpi vs 5600 dpi of the new mice).

I would prefer keeping my lachesis with 4000 dpi and same response time if its against the DA smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Defoler View Post

I thought the DA BE has a lesser sensor (3500 dpi vs 5600 dpi of the new mice).
I would prefer keeping my lachesis with 4000 dpi and same response time if its against the DA smile.gif

Hello.

Let me introduce you to the most common misconception on this subforum, sir :

More CPI != better sensor.

I still have a Lachesis lying around at my flat, and it's comfortably sitting on a box, alongside the Mamba, since they're not suitable for more than casual gaming and web surfing, nothing too serious.

My main gripes with them?
- Lachesis : it seemed to have some sort of dynamic CPI setting, as when I started playing it was the CPI I selected, and after a while it seemed to be either lower or higher. Inconsistency aside, it also would do weird movements if tilted laterally. Although if you adapted to it's little weird problems and had one of the very few mousepads in which it worked flawlessly, it had excellent tracking. Z-axis bug never put me much off with the Lachesis compared to the Mamba.

- Mamba : same as the Lachesis, but a little less noticeable, at some point it seemed the CPI felt a bit weird, but it tracked much better than the Lachesis. However, z-axis bug was far more noticeable, it only worked flawless on the SS SX and, to top it off, the two main buttons are constructed in a way you can click them by just palming the mouse. If it only didn't have that last bug, I would be even happy to use it since the tracking and precision was absolutely great.

However, further experience has shown to me that several older mice do perform in the same (or higher) level while not having many of the letdowns of those two bugged products, such as :
- DA : BE/3.5G
- Zowie mice
- IMO1.1/3.0
- G400

They might not have as much CPI, but they don't have problematic sensors or shapes, and they just plain work.

And while you might be thinking that playing in multi-monitor setup you may need much higher CPI, truth is you can even adapt into using 400CPI mice for desktop uses, even at high resolutions (I am using 400CPI at 1920x1080 and I'm not getting tired or a huge biceps only by surfing the web, I assure you).

Anyway, if high CPI is really a need for you, there are mice which can exploit it, but I just cannot recommend them (no experience with them due to knowing their flaws, and not willing to spend money on flawed products wink.gif).

Best of luck finding your perfect mouse smile.gif
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Have you ever consider trackball?
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You should consider a Steelseries Xai/Sensei. Their great mice with very high build quality. Been using mine for over a year now and its probably the best mouse I've ever used. The ambidextrous shape makes it suitable for a wide range of gripping styles and hand sizes.
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More CPI != better sensor.

Yeah I know DPI doesn't mean a better sensor, and it wasn't my intention smile.gif (at least I hope you meant DPI and not CPI).

But as far as I know the two mice has similar sensor, with the lachesis one a bit twinkled to give more DPI.

What you said about the lachesis DPI going up and down, I had similar feelings when I got the mouse a couple of years ago, which were gone once I updated the firmware. I also has issues with the mouse suddenly broadcasting the key 'h' all the time unless I kill the drivers. This has also been fixed once I updated the firmware.

I don't know about you playing in 400 DPI, but for me, in surround, that is horrid regarding mouse performance tongue.gif
The mouse works fine. But its just not accurate enough, and I feel that a better sensor and higher DPI will help.
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Have you ever consider trackball?

Na.
I used to own a trackball when I did 3D models. Not really my cup of tea these days.
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Yeah I know DPI doesn't mean a better sensor, and it wasn't my intention smile.gif(at least I hope you meant DPI and not CPI).

DPI and CPI are the same. Dots per inch, Counts per inch.
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