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I'm not saying that Apple didn't invent anything, I'm just saying that the company as a whole has become more and more corrupt over the years, they tend to tell that they invented all the technologies in their products, which is absolutely BS, also, the way Apple is marketing their products is outrageous! The whole computer vs mac thing really started getting on my nerves, telling people that the OSX was the most secure system on the planet, when it actually wasn't, using the non-techsavy people as puppets, because Apple do know that those people that do not have the interest in technology, are the easiest to manipulate, by going straight at them with agressive marketing. Also, looking back at the whole "Oh Apple is the best" thing, I truly hate Apple for telling people that the iPod is the best music player in the world, not really giving the ordinary people a choice, and making it incredible hard for other companies to sell their, for the most time superior products. And even when companies invent things, to compete against the iPad, iPhone or iPod, Apple steals it, and I know steal is a strong word, but I don't know how else to describe their actions.

The responsibility is on the CONSUMER to properly research their purchases. If someone buys something, especially something of high value, without properly researching the good, then any buyer's remorse is on them. Advertising is designed to sell the products and thus there are going to be embellishments no matter what. Now of course if it is a flat out lie, then yes that is bad and it will be up to the courts to handle per federal or civil legal systems. As far as security goes, all things tech typically come in 2 flavors; practicality or theory. It is true that provided enough motivation, one can into the OS X platform making it the same level as everyone else. It can also be said however, that due to the much smaller market share of OS X, that simply out of incompatibility and lack of interest, that OS X becomes more "secure" than other OS's.

What kind of company will promote other companies' products? Apple established the right of marketing dominance for the MP3 player industry when it lead the way with the HDD based iPod. It is up to the rest of the companies to either fight for the remaining share and eventually usurp the leader's share. If Samsung had released their MP3 player BEFORE the iPod and marketed it successfully with Apple's advertising savvy, we could very well have been talking about Samsung today instead. Another thing to consider, Apple has an established reputation as a corporation who still treats customers well. Would I have the same hope with a company like Samsung?
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Just as blatant as HP's new Envy 15 and 17.

You haven't seen the new Samsung 15" laptop have you?

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By the way, asking a lawyer to identify between an iPad and a Galaxy tablet from across the room is about like asking a 16 year girl to identify between an old Dodge Challenger and an old Chevy Camaro.
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They don't even recognize the details that make them different.

hey! that looks like my Camaro.....redface.gif

on a side note....id rather drive a Fury than a Challenger thumb.gif
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post #114 of 268
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It is not really important who made something as anyone can invent something, but if you can't sell it, you cannot create, establish, or dominate a market. To act like Apple has done nothing good or that taking advantage of a system is not smart or that defending something you feel you have rights to is very childish.

Of course its important to know who made something...because whoever did it deserves its IP to be protected.

What did Apple do? Apple never invented the wheel, Apple always took an existing product and made some improvements, but that fact grants you nothing. Well, of course it does, the moment you do a good innovation you are the first to sell it and get huge money thanks to it, what else do you want?

Its clear to me that some of you just confuse ideas. Success has nothing to do with patents nor rights nor anything similar. A product sells more or sells less, but you talk that "Apple reinvented stuff because they were successful and thus has rights..." when it doesn't. You have rights when you are the legitimate inventor of something, which Apple isn't. And thats why some of us hate Apple...not because we are stupid enough not to see the genius in many of its work...but because we are tired to see big companies using its sheer size to rule the market as they see fit (which is easy when you deal with a broken law-system, such as the one in the US), using every single hole they find in order to pushing the competition out.

Thats the only reason. I may or may not like Apples products...but I just can't stand the companies philosophy and I'm sick of this "quest for patents" because its getting too far, and Apple is the most moral-lax company I have yet to see.
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They look too similar.
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LOL

I love this! SAMSUNG is obviously telling Apple that they aren't afraid of them. And they have Google Android backing them up.

The best part of the whole thing, it's just a stupid little Entry-Level phone tongue.gif almost hinting that the iPhone is a "Entry-Level" in Samsung's eye's.

I may get one just for the fun of it... *going to look at the specks*

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LOL
I love this! SAMSUNG is obviously telling Apple that they aren't afraid of them. And they have Google Android backing them up.
The best part of the whole thing, it's just a stupid little Entry-Level phone tongue.gif almost hinting that the iPhone is a "Entry-Level" in Samsung's eye's.
I may get one just for the fun of it... *going to look at the specks*

The 3GS IS an entry level phone now.
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And people like you have no place in the tech world. You have no idea what the word "innovation" even means. Name one single Tablet that could do what the iPad does that came out before the iPad. You can't. Because there wasn't. Apple has always prided itself on the USER EXPERIENCE, the user INTERFACE, and making these work like second nature. That's innovation. Apple is the sole reason you even have a modern-day desktop with a GUI and a mouse. Apple pioneered the personal computer. Know your history.
Apple-haters like yourself are FAR more sheepish than most Apple fans. Hell, I love my Nexus One, best phone I've ever used, but I'm definitely considering the iPhone. It's sleek, fast, easy to use and has a much more robust market for more useful apps.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/10/iphone-4s-sells-one-million-in-24-hours/
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/10/10iPhone-4S-Pre-Orders-Top-One-Million-in-First-24-Hours.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/10/10/apple-sold-1m-iphone-4s-in-24-hours.html
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2011/10/iphone-4s-sold-out-for-launch-day-in-less-than-24-hours-at-apple.html
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/apple-breaks-pre-sale-records-with-iphone-4s/
Would you like more?

No lol I just wanted to read about it.

Also I noticed that this phone was designed in correlation with the iPhone's patents.
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Chillax people! I agree, yes this phone might look like an iPhone, however defending Apple is so wrong to do, with all this lawsuit stuff going around... In this case, yes, defend each company as your want, however as a whole, the Apple company should not be defended, what they have done to the tech world is unbearable, and please, do not quote me on that, replying: "APPLEZ MADE THE IPOD!!! OMGZ! Seriously, if Apple wouldn't have made it, someone else would... Apple is copying everything right now, however they did exactly the same thing back in the days, no Apple did not invent the touchscreen, or the multitouch. They did not invent the tablet, or reinvent it for that matter, yes they did make it userfriendly, and "cool" however its functionality is as much or less that the tablets that were around at the release of the iPad. Oh, and that iPhone 3G? Yeah, why not pay the licens to use the 3G before releasing the phone? Apple is such a dirty company, however ignorant people is ignorant, if they get a iPhone into their hands, they got a worldwide known brand, which makes them "cool" and the iPhone is so popular, which MUST mean, that it's the best phone on the entire planet!

I am going to have to disagree with you about this. Apple may not have invented the phone or tablet, but they certainly established the market. A lot of you seems to have a revisionist view or selective amnesia about things, most likely from established bias towards the company. Unlike most of the sheep and haters on this community, I remember the MP3, cell phone, and tablet market before Apple led the way and each of those markets were beyond stagnated. Let us start with MP3 players first.

Prior to the iPod, there were only small MP3 players like Rio Diamond (most ran on AA batteries) with like up to 32MB of memory storage, MP3/CD players, and the oversized and ugly Jukebox. Apple released a truly portable MP3 player that did not also sacrifice memory size or media type. After that, portable HDD based MP3 players became the trendy flavor.

Prior to the iPhone, we were part of a cellular market ruled by the CARRIERS, where CARRIERS determined what features were allowed on phones. There was a reason why so many smartphone enthusiasts in the US were importing in their phones from overseas. Smartphones were also fairly difficult to use, especially with crap like the Palm Treo. Hell, the best phone readily available in the US at the time was the HTC Touch Pro running Windows Mobile or the Nokia N95. The iPhone brought 2 HUGE changes to the market; the power of deciding what is included on the phone shifted to the manufacturer as carriers not ATT were desperate for their own easy mode smartphone and manufacturers were now driven to develop not only their own smartphones with touch screens, but tailor mobile OS to the touchscreen interface as well.

Prior to the iPad, there was virtually no tablet market. Aside from people who needed tablets due to field work, there was no market or innovation. You had clunky, underpowered crap attempting to run a full blown OS that no one wanted. I don't even need to go into the battery issues. The iPad showed what a consumer could do with a slim, light weight, aesthetically pleasing tablet running a mobile OS. After that, again there was an influx as all the other companies followed suit.

It is easy to say in hindsight, "Well anyone could have done it and someone would have." However, that statement is also very naive and stupid. While anyone could have came up with that idea, the point is that until Apple (who has a consistent history of innovating functionality and creating markets) decided to make the first foray and no one else did. Large companies generally just fall in line and rehash what other companies do because they are afraid to make the huge financial commitment of establishing a new market or even trying something new. Going with what is popular or established has always been safer.


And you forgot the MacBook Air, which everyone is slavishly copying as well.
 
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And you forgot the MacBook Air, which everyone is slavishly copying as well.


Yes, everyone is copying having a non removable battery, a hard drive that is proprietary instead of standard, and only coming in a white color.

Oops.

Edit: Also, can you really say going thin is a patentable design? Technology has always gotten thinner, so you can't really say that because the macbook air was the thinnest for a brief time that it can patent the look.

Also, look at this article. Funny who made the Macbook air before it even came out
Spoiler---- Sony did, in 2003.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/237992/windows_laptop_makers_cant_catch_up_to_the_macbook_air.html

Apple fans: Shut the front door!

Also, a google search shows that apple approves of thinner computers. It says "Designed the way every notebook should be." Apple approves.
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