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They did re-invent it. Before the iPad all tablets were heavy, had low battery life, ran Windows, had weak hardware, and even some had hard drives instead of solid state drives, and now they're all like the iPad. Even after the release of the iPad it still took six months or so for a competitor to get a slate released, and a few months after that for some more.
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The Ace is a blatant copy of the iPhone 3G. I don't really care, although I do find it a little funny -- as has been said, Samsung is trolling Apple.

Like I said, all they did was be the first to jump on the market when the tech was good enough to give tablets/smartphones that were not "heavy, had low battery life, ran windows, had weak hardware". They in no way invented it or pioneered it, it was coming regardless... I'll give them credit for being the first to push such an expensive tech on people, and for even making poor people want to throw away hundreds on whats little more than a novelty or toy imo (as it states "in my opin" means its an opinion, so get your panties out of a knot... , not directed at the person I'm quoting, just people that misunderstand and thing opins are being pushed as "facts" heh)

Smartphones were already invented, marketed and sold b4 the iphone came along, so in no way was the iPhone and iTouch "revolutionary" it was more "evolutionary" as the tech was finally catching up to what was needed to make the device fast, small, and light enough to make it user friendly, and not to mention battery life.... very few people would want a slow smartphone or tablet and have it last just an hour or so.... So with the LG prata (or prada... don't care enough to even google at this point tongue.gif), smartphones as we know it today was already out there. And since the iTouch is an iPhone without a phone, and the iPads are just blown up touches... did they invent the market? Not a chance. What they did was jump the gun first, and do what Apple does best, marketing. Thats all, nothing else. I hate how people worship Apple as if we would not have smartphones or tablets at all today without them, thats a joke. A really funny one at that. Who knows exactly what the market might look right now if Apple didn't really get a head start or if they didn't even become a presence... Though with how things are now, it seems more like the market is gravitating towards the obvious, by that I mean it likely would look very similar to what we have today regardless... as most of the interface and control scheme are no brainers as being thesimplest and easiest way to do such things... Just like if someone were building a computer from scratch with an all new design.... chances are they will still end up with a kb and mouse... or a keyboard and something resembling a mouse... as its fairly obvious that one would need a way of inputting words and text or commands, and what better more efficient way then a kb? And even if they didn't come up with a mouse the basics would still be there, a hand controlled pointing device for navigation and interaction...

Bah, look what you made me do, write a big'ol post about nonsense... But yea, I still can't believe people think Apple is responsible for the devices we have today... makes for a good chuckle at least.

Edit> Forgot to talk about the ace vs 3gs.... if the Ace is copying the 3gs, then the iPhone itself is copying the Prata... so either Apple is a child-like hypocrite to the extreme, or they are just trolls... sorry I forgot, they are both!

And for the few people that can't deal to hear anything bad said about Apple... my opins are just that, opins. I dislike Apple because of the crap they pull, not because of the devices they make, though sometimes they price gouge pretty bad and leave out even the most basic of features to force people to buy extreme markup items to compensate for things missing that even a half its price device has standard... oops, there I go again... So.... decent products, garbage company.
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Originally Posted by steelbom View Post

They did re-invent it. Before the iPad all tablets were heavy, had low battery life, ran Windows, had weak hardware, and even some had hard drives instead of solid state drives, and now they're all like the iPad. Even after the release of the iPad it still took six months or so for a competitor to get a slate released, and a few months after that for some more.
>>>>>
The Ace is a blatant copy of the iPhone 3G. I don't really care, although I do find it a little funny -- as has been said, Samsung is trolling Apple.

Like I said, all they did was be the first to jump on the market when the tech was good enough to give tablets/smartphones that were not "heavy, had low battery life, ran windows, had weak hardware". They in no way invented it or pioneered it, it was coming regardless... I'll give them credit for being the first to push such an expensive tech on people, and for even making poor people want to throw away hundreds on whats little more than a novelty or toy imo (as it states "in my opin" means its an opinion, so get your panties out of a knot... , not directed at the person I'm quoting, just people that misunderstand and thing opins are being pushed as "facts" heh)

Smartphones were already invented, marketed and sold b4 the iphone came along, so in no way was the iPhone and iTouch "revolutionary" it was more "evolutionary" as the tech was finally catching up to what was needed to make the device fast, small, and light enough to make it user friendly, and not to mention battery life.... very few people would want a slow smartphone or tablet and have it last just an hour or so.... So with the LG prata (or prada... don't care enough to even google at this point tongue.gif), smartphones as we know it today was already out there. And since the iTouch is an iPhone without a phone, and the iPads are just blown up touches... did they invent the market? Not a chance. What they did was jump the gun first, and do what Apple does best, marketing. Thats all, nothing else. I hate how people worship Apple as if we would not have smartphones or tablets at all today without them, thats a joke. A really funny one at that. Who knows exactly what the market might look right now if Apple didn't really get a head start or if they didn't even become a presence... Though with how things are now, it seems more like the market is gravitating towards the obvious, by that I mean it likely would look very similar to what we have today regardless... as most of the interface and control scheme are no brainers as being thesimplest and easiest way to do such things... Just like if someone were building a computer from scratch with an all new design.... chances are they will still end up with a kb and mouse... or a keyboard and something resembling a mouse... as its fairly obvious that one would need a way of inputting words and text or commands, and what better more efficient way then a kb? And even if they didn't come up with a mouse the basics would still be there, a hand controlled pointing device for navigation and interaction...

Bah, look what you made me do, write a big'ol post about nonsense... But yea, I still can't believe people think Apple is responsible for the devices we have today... makes for a good chuckle at least.

Edit> Forgot to talk about the ace vs 3gs.... if the Ace is copying the 3gs, then the iPhone itself is copying the Prata... so either Apple is a child-like hypocrite to the extreme, or they are just trolls... sorry I forgot, they are both!

And for the few people that can't deal to hear anything bad said about Apple... my opins are just that, opins. I dislike Apple because of the crap they pull, not because of the devices they make, though sometimes they price gouge pretty bad and leave out even the most basic of features to force people to buy extreme markup items to compensate for things missing that even a half its price device has standard... oops, there I go again... So.... decent products, garbage company.

I agree with his. Apple is a serious player and has contributed to the improvement of the market. But now, they seem to be destroying the positives they worked hard for.

It is sad that every Apple thread resorts to this because these whatever you want to call them supporters always jump in and provoke a flame war between each company. OCN was, seriously, not as bad until these members started their provoking. It's sad that once proven wrong, they continue to act as they do. It's like they don't have a single rational bone in their body. Ugh.

I don't want to avoid Apple threads because of these members. I like the intelligent conversations that these threads CAN produce. It gives you a good side of things towards the company and their products and competitors. But the moment you start reading others' opinions on here, it's already a flame war. You can't even avoid these members as the threads go down hill the moment they join in the conversation. Blocking does nothing.
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It is sad that every Apple thread resorts to this because these whatever you want to call them supporters always jump in and provoke a flame war between each company. OCN was, seriously, not as bad until these members started their provoking. It's sad that once proven wrong, they continue to act as they do. It's like they don't have a single rational bone in their body. Ugh.


Translation: I don't like when people disagree with me! Everyone should think exactly like I do on these matters, and anyone who doesn't is flaming!

tongue.gif


I'm just surprised nobody has written in that Apple should die in a fire and that Steve Jobs is rotting in hell yet, perhaps the mods cleaned it up before I got here. VERY interesting view from your side of the fence......I don't think it's the reality whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

It is sad that every Apple thread resorts to this because these whatever you want to call them supporters always jump in and provoke a flame war between each company. OCN was, seriously, not as bad until these members started their provoking. It's sad that once proven wrong, they continue to act as they do. It's like they don't have a single rational bone in their body. Ugh.


Translation: I don't like when people disagree with me! Everyone should think exactly like I do on these matters, and anyone who doesn't is flaming!

tongue.gif

 




Not at all actually. I don't care if someone likes the product and or company while I don't. I actually like the iPhone4(S). The build quality or it's design is under par, as proven, but the specs are nice and functions alright.  Previous iPhones were good products.

But see, I don't like the confrontation that specific members bring in. It makes OCN unprofessional that these people don't like it that someone dislikes their toys.

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Not at all actually. I don't care if someone likes the product and or company while I don't. I actually like the iPhone4(S). The build quality or it's design is under par, as proven, but the specs are nice and functions alright.  Previous iPhones were good products.


But see, I don't like the confrontation that specific members bring in. It makes OCN unprofessional that these people don't like it that someone dislikes their toys.

I would actually like an argument where people actually argue about the subject instead of throwing the random "your a sheep because of your opinion"
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Proof that they re-invented it? How can you reinvent a market that already existed no different then today? All Apple did was improve on the market. Technology for all the handsets we on par with each other, had their own app market, had touch screens, etc. It was simple progression of technology. Simple really.
Looks like Apple's marketing crap claimed another victim.
The proof is in the fact that they were significantly different than today. How can you claim that it wasn't? Let's make a check list shall we? Tell me where I'm wrong:

Tablets:

1) They ran Windows
2) They used power hungry and underpowered hardware required to run Windows
3) They had very little battery life
4) They were heavy
5) They were expensive

The iPad:

1) Runs a mobile touch based OS
2) Uses power efficient and ample hardware required to run iOS
3) It had massive amounts of battery life
4) It's lighter than Windows based slates
5) It wasn't expensive comparatively

If it was a simple progression of technology why didn't anyone else do it first? And why after the release of the iPad was it out for at least six months before any attempt at competition? Apple was working on the iPad at least one year (maybe even a year and a half) before they released it which would be April 2009, so why wasn't another company doing the same thing at the same time if the tech was there, especially if it was just a simple progression of technology?
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Like I said, all they did was be the first to jump on the market when the tech was good enough to give tablets/smartphones that were not "heavy, had low battery life, ran windows, had weak hardware". They in no way invented it or pioneered it, it was coming regardless... I'll give them credit for being the first to push such an expensive tech on people, and for even making poor people want to throw away hundreds on whats little more than a novelty or toy imo (as it states "in my opin" means its an opinion, so get your panties out of a knot... , not directed at the person I'm quoting, just people that misunderstand and thing opins are being pushed as "facts" heh)
Smartphones were already invented, marketed and sold b4 the iphone came along, so in no way was the iPhone and iTouch "revolutionary" it was more "evolutionary" as the tech was finally catching up to what was needed to make the device fast, small, and light enough to make it user friendly, and not to mention battery life.... very few people would want a slow smartphone or tablet and have it last just an hour or so.... So with the LG prata (or prada... don't care enough to even google at this point tongue.gif), smartphones as we know it today was already out there. And since the iTouch is an iPhone without a phone, and the iPads are just blown up touches... did they invent the market? Not a chance. What they did was jump the gun first, and do what Apple does best, marketing. Thats all, nothing else. I hate how people worship Apple as if we would not have smartphones or tablets at all today without them, thats a joke. A really funny one at that. Who knows exactly what the market might look right now if Apple didn't really get a head start or if they didn't even become a presence... Though with how things are now, it seems more like the market is gravitating towards the obvious, by that I mean it likely would look very similar to what we have today regardless... as most of the interface and control scheme are no brainers as being thesimplest and easiest way to do such things... Just like if someone were building a computer from scratch with an all new design.... chances are they will still end up with a kb and mouse... or a keyboard and something resembling a mouse... as its fairly obvious that one would need a way of inputting words and text or commands, and what better more efficient way then a kb? And even if they didn't come up with a mouse the basics would still be there, a hand controlled pointing device for navigation and interaction...
Bah, look what you made me do, write a big'ol post about nonsense... But yea, I still can't believe people think Apple is responsible for the devices we have today... makes for a good chuckle at least.
Edit> Forgot to talk about the ace vs 3gs.... if the Ace is copying the 3gs, then the iPhone itself is copying the Prata... so either Apple is a child-like hypocrite to the extreme, or they are just trolls... sorry I forgot, they are both!
And for the few people that can't deal to hear anything bad said about Apple... my opins are just that, opins. I dislike Apple because of the crap they pull, not because of the devices they make, though sometimes they price gouge pretty bad and leave out even the most basic of features to force people to buy extreme markup items to compensate for things missing that even a half its price device has standard... oops, there I go again... So.... decent products, garbage company.
The phone and slate market wouldn't be the same without Apple, they've had a significant impact on the industry. The iPad is a re-invention of the tablet, because previously tablets sucked, and the iPad was done in a different way which made it great. There was a teeny tiny small market for tablets, but now there's a huge demand for slates.

You say that they jumped the gun, but the tech was there earlier. Apple worked on the iPad for AT LEAST one year (likely longer) which means back in April 2009, which means the tech was there back then, so why hadn't another company started developing a slate back in 2009 for release in 2010?
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Not at all actually. I don't care if someone likes the product and or company while I don't. I actually like the iPhone4(S). The build quality or it's design is under par, as proven, but the specs are nice and functions alright.  Previous iPhones were good products.

But see, I don't like the confrontation that specific members bring in. It makes OCN unprofessional that these people don't like it that someone dislikes their toys.
That's your opinion though, I think the build quality (or design) of the iPhone 4S is great. It's not like they tried to make a durable phone and failed, they chose to make a very aesthetically pleasing phone. I knew very well that if I drop the phone it's game over, I know however that I don't drop my phone so it's a moot point for me.
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There's nothing to miss, when I'm getting this.
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I especially won't miss that tiny 3.5" screen.
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You consider this premium? Something else I won't miss! wink.gif
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Last but not least, Samsung is on a roll!
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And you people want to say Apple users are high and mighty? Wow. Talk about condescending.
 
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