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post #21 of 66
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Originally Posted by Pwnjohnson
I agree on the price, but lets delve into power consumption + efficiency.

#1- The full AC unit is sizeable + costly to keep running. A 1/6 hp compressor will be both quieter and more power efficient. OCZ even stated that it wanted a small compressor for the power efficiency.
#2- You buy it, you bolt it on, your good to go. Most people don't want to risk their components against something like a slush box setup, which imo is not very efficient.
#3- Less likely to see condensation, less insulation measures to be taken.
#4- You'll see amazing results for the price, and very good temperatures. -28.5C? Thats nice, now factor in the Hassle, taxes, labor in assembly, testing, etc.. Same situation with home-built Phase-change systems, and THEN its even worse (You have to know what your doing, have the right equipment, etc..).

I hope you see what im getting at here..
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Originally Posted by Nasgul
Using Phase 24/7 is very expensive, electricity wise that is. Expect your bill to go up by as much as $50 per month.

Water FTW!
1/5 HP Compressors don't pull numbers like Mach II compressors do. For pete sake, show some friggin if your hard-set that it swallows power like that. I've said it already, 1/5 / 1/6 HP Compressors are set on power consumption to be to a minimum.

Double post, MB. >.<
post #22 of 66
WTH are you talking about lol. Less likely for condensation??? anything below ambient will see it. -28c or -60c there isnt gonna be any differeence in the condensation. Using a small compressor will only make the compressor work harder to achieve waht a larger compressor can do easily, thus createing alot of unneccsary heat, possibly damaging or limiting the lifespan of the compressor. and you electric bill wont go up $50 lmao. Mine went up like $10 from 24/7 use on a lrger compressor (1/4 hp mach II)
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post #23 of 66
Sorry i only have a minute but I sincerly hope this is just an question and not meant as a factual statement:
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#4- You'll see amazing results for the price, and very good temperatures. -28.5C?
-28.5c ROTFL...try 5c to 10c under load if your lucky and idle -5c with an evap of -15 or so at stock...the compressors is way to small no matter the coolant...I am still researching phase but in this case size of the compressor DOES matter. By the way even the Chilly temps are not all that great under full load try -10 to -14 on a very good day with a vCore 1.60 and 2 cores folding
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Haha, I meant that as a reference to the guy with the slush box who reported the -28.5C Temp. Ok, so it'll condense just as fast as my cold soda, nothing serious , on a power consumption note, tell that to the guy who said $50+ more a month , and yes, OCZ mentioned that it was for lower power consumption. Heating up, im not so sure. Thats most likely Refrigerant dependant, and by the looks of it, R404 will behave differently than R134a in terms of work load, which is why we have different types of refrigerants , some meant to be lighter on the smaller compressors.
post #25 of 66
R404a needs a higher pressure then R134a and that equals more heat. R404a in a danfoss n9fx (the mach II cooler) whicjh by the way is much bigger then the OCZ one and more relaible blah blah. Gets hot and when you mod R404a in it you need to trun up the fans to keep ot from overheating
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Im sure OCZ takes this into consideration..
post #27 of 66
I dont think they do. i think there trying to make a quick buck
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post #28 of 66
what do you mean its released by holidays it says in the first paragraph by the end of october
post #29 of 66
Meh, this is why we need a little comparison going on. Good/Extreme Air cooling for $35-50, Watercooling for $200-300 (Insert $230 slushbox option here ), Good Phase change - DIY $25-150, Prebuilt $800-900. Yeah, for the kind of results you get in comparison to efficiency, Prebuilt Phase is highly inefficient, DIY Phase is do-able and a lot more efficient, Watercooling is a little too pricey for what you get (imho), air is somewhat efficient (low costs in equipment and operation, but lower overclocking freedom), and a slushbox sounds like the best of them in terms of simplicity and cost. Everyones got their own opinion on it, and my reformed opinion says that OCZ may not be giving us as good a product as we may think .
post #30 of 66
DIY cost more like $400-600. And only more efficient if its done RIGHT lol. God a decent embrao 1/5hp compressor is like $70
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