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According CNET, Quanta is suing over an allegedly faulty ATI chipset. That chipset was for an Intel Core 2 CPU and Radeon Xpress 1250 iirc.
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The suit is centered on the ATI RS600ME, an integrated graphics solution, an AMD spokesperson told CNET. Integrated graphics chips include other circuitry and also act as a chipset, which supports the main central processing unit or CPU.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57352185-64/quanta-sues-amd-over-defective-chips/?part=rss&subj=latest-news&tag=title
Edited by Riou - 1/4/12 at 3:22pm
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File rejected.
Quanta is the one who choosed to use AMD product.
They are the one who came up with the layout of the laptop, they should be aware that GPU's create heat which has do be dumped somewhere.

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According CNET, Quanta is suing over an allegedly faulty ATI chipset. That chipset was for an Intel Core 2 CPU and Radeon Xpress 1250 iirc.
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The suit is centered on the ATI RS600ME, an integrated graphics solution, an AMD spokesperson told CNET. Integrated graphics chips include other circuitry and also act as a chipset, which supports the main central processing unit or CPU.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57352185-64/quanta-sues-amd-over-defective-chips/?part=rss&subj=latest-news&tag=title

Overheating nb chipset? What are the odds that the heatsink was not making good contact with it or the thermal paste was bad/improperly applied in the factory?.
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...it is obviously not Bulldozer. The lawsuit is now... so the products that were defective must have been sold at least 1+ years ago.
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AMD is aware of no other customer reports of the alleged issues with the AMD chip that Quanta used, which AMD no longer sells,” Silverman said.

I was using satire to make a Bulldozer joke. It's obviously not about that CPU, but I felt it appropriate to be clever and introduce one, anyway. smile.gif
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I was using satire to make a Bulldozer joke. It's obviously not about that CPU, but I felt it appropriate to be clever and introduce one, anyway. smile.gif

The irony is that AMD is being sued over a notebook that used an Intel cpu.... tongue.gif
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Overheating nb chipset? What are the odds that the heatsink was not making good contact with it or the thermal paste was bad/improperly applied in the factory?.

I'd bet that the odds are pretty good. If you've ever removed a reference heatsink off of an ATi product, you'd know that they use entirely TOO much TIM. Not to mention that silver crap is total garbage on GPUs'; the ceramic silver stuff works loads better. I managed to drop idle and load temps on some reference cards 13C by simply changing out the TIM.
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Edited by Rotsae - 4/1/14 at 11:39pm
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Have you heard of Hon Hai? They probably manufactured/assembled at least one part of any PC you ever used.

Ya i have hear of them. They go by Foxconn for the most part now, don't they.
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Ya i have hear of them. They go by Foxconn for the most part now, don't they.


It appears so. Link

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File rejected.
Quanta is the one who choosed to use AMD product.
They are the one who came up with the layout of the laptop, they should be aware that GPU's create heat which has do be dumped somewhere.



Engineers design products. Engineers (not upper management) will engineer based on specs. Management aside, in electronics engineering, the cheapest part that fits the specs is the winning part. It isn't the Quanta engineers fault if the AMD/ATI engineer lied (accidentally or otherwise) about how much heat the GPU would put out. That is just like saying that you are responsible for any faulty computer parts you receive. If Newegg ships you a faulty product, do you say "well, it's my fault. I'm the one who purchased it (even though it was supposed to work)"? I imagine that instead of accepting the loss, you are more like Quanta or myself. You complain to Newegg and contact a lawyer if Newegg won't keep their buyer/seller contract and the money/reputation lost is enough to merit pushing things further.


This is a battle of AMD engineers and fabrication vs Quanta engineers and manufacturing.

Note: the chips in question are fairly old as ATI is named in the suit (according to the articles implication)

AMD will try to prove that their engineers did appropriate due diligence (ie. gave the right tolerances) and that AMD fabs (now Globalfoundries) manufactured and tested the completed chips to ensure tolerances were right.

Quanta will try to prove that their engineers designed the boards in question correctly, that manufacturing assembled the product correctly and that despite these procedures, the product was still faulty.
Edited by hajile - 1/4/12 at 6:16pm
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