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I am having Temp problems that I cannot get right with my sig rig. I was running my i3-2120 with a stock cooler & BIOS was reading at IDLE with a stock cooler 50-51c. So I was like OK maybe the stock cooler is just garbage so I ordered a Thermaltake FRIO which arrived today. After installation I checked temps and its 42c idle.

 

I have Reapplied tim many times, I have used 3 different tims (X23, G751, Stock FRIO Thermal). I have made sure I had a 100% contact with the CPU but doing some test seats. I just dont get this stupid thing. I am maybe pointing to a Faulty Sensor which totally stink  cause Its a new Mobo but im not sure

 

BIOS & Hardware Monitor both read differently. hardware monitor reads Temps to be less then BIOS

 

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CoreTemp:

 

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Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 1/4/12 at 3:57pm
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post #2 of 10
It is possible that one sensor is stuck and no matter how many times you re-mount the cooler will fix it. Are BIOS temps off as well?
post #3 of 10
Why are you trying to get good idle temps? Idle temps are meaningless! You should be testing load temps and only load temps, they are the important ones. For one thing, idle temps are very inaccurate, for another, they will never got much below 40c, even with water cooling! You temps are very much acceptable and the only way to see how well the cooler is really working is by heating it up with Prime95 or IBT or something similar.
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post #4 of 10

An i3 2120 should idle around 33-35C (ambient ~25-27C) under a high end cooler (eg TRUE).  This is the core temp, ie an internal digital reading by softwares like CoreTemp, RealTemp, HWMonitor.

 

I would suggest you to use these softwares whose reading is more useful (vs BIOS).  From the pic below, HWMonitor shows 31/38C while the CoreTemp also shows the same numbers. And they are, more or less, in line with the 33-35C mark.

 

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So, no worry.

 

For the temp under full load, I expect it to be 50-55C.


Edited by windfire - 1/4/12 at 5:55pm
post #5 of 10
Isn't the BIOS temps always different than programs temps? Dunno if I'm saying it right but I think you may know what I mean?

Anyways, I think those are great temps as well using HWM.
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bios temps are higher..for some reason..maybe the cpu stays under constant load or something..bios temps reflect about a 50% load..
So..what are your temps if you run prime95 for 2 mins? hmm? thinking.gif
Edited by Schmuckley - 1/4/12 at 5:59pm
 
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post #7 of 10
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I have not yet installed prime95 but I will. I have been watching my CPU and its hardly fluctuates at all. 0-1% on desktop


Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 1/4/12 at 6:02pm
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post #8 of 10
The problem with idle temps is that the sensors are normally calibrated to be more accurate closer to high load. Please give us load temps, then we can tell you if you have a problem. Also, what is the room temperature there? Also, I misread the BIOS reading part, BIOS readings are irrelevant, they do not use the internal sensors.
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post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

bios temps are higher..for some reason..maybe the cpu stays under constant load or something..bios temps reflect about a 50% load..
So..what are your temps if you run prime95 for 2 mins? hmm? thinking.gif


10 mins of Prime95

 

Core 0: 49c

Core 1: 55c

 

did not go over 49c-55c in the 10 mins of prime95. once prime95 shut down it went down to 31c-38c as normal. Im sorry guys if everything is normal I was always told that the BIOS was the best indicator for the most accurate CPU temps. Was not aware that Programs such as hardware Monitor & Core Temp was the best for accuracy.

 

I saw the high idle temps in the BIOS and was like wow 43-45c for Idle is high but in the programs its 31-38c

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post #10 of 10
Those temps look fine! But yes, BIOS used to be the preferred method of temp. monitoring but since the P4 era temperature sensors have been included inside the CPU itself, so now software is always going to be more accurate (unless the BIOS reads that sensor).
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