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Today I got a Sunbeam Silent Storm ATX case. It came with 3 120mm fans, and I added another two in a couple places.

After firing up my system I found out it was unstable. I turned it off, unplugged 2, fired it up, and it was still unstable. I turned it off, unplugged the rest, fired my system up, and now it's completely stable.

Just how much do 120mm fans drain? They seem to be sucking away my stability. I don't have a lot of spare molex's to use because of the odd modular connections into the PSU. I think I'll have to find a PCIe -> 4-pin converter cable for my Videocard since it has a 4-pin slot.

At first I had 5 fans hooked up on a single molex, but apparently that's a very bad idea, so anyone know roughly how many I run off a single PSU slot?
     
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its safe to run like 3 max on each molex slot. Thats kinda wierd you cant run all of them with a nice 550W psu, I have 5(not all 120mm) and mine runs them fine.
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well, you can buy a Zalman fan splitter. It takes one molex plug and has four 3pin fan connectors. Two reg voltage, and two low voltage plugs. I saw it somewhere, but i cant find it now.. BTW it comes with some Zalman HS. IF not, designate a molex for fans and buy 3 molex => fan adapters.

Edit, i thought u were plugging them into ur mobo.. RMA the PSU, it shouldnt go unstable with only 3 fans.

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A single 120mm fan can pull from 5 to 20 watts depending on the power of the fan.
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Ok, now it seems to be ok...so far. Prime95 stable 30 mins, with 3 120mm fans running.

I flipped around the slots I used from the PSU. There's five 6-pin slots; now the first one is for my SATA HDs, the second one powers my optical drives and CPU fan, and the fifth one is powering my GPU and the 3 fans. No system freezes, and seems stable.

I also reseated my heatsink(can't be too sure!), since as I moved my mobo to the new case I actually grabbed the mobo by the heatsink and carried it like that. The heatsink was not out of place, as far as I could tell.

And finally, an oddity. To rearrange the slots used, I had to unplug the modular cables, but one of them would not disconnect from the PSU.
-Tried using hands. (failed)
-Tried using pliers. (failed)
-Tried asking a chriopractor to help. (failed with both hands and pliers).
-Tried getting 1 person to push down on the clip really hard while two others pry with knives and a fourth person pulls on the wires. (worked after 20 seconds )

So...not quite sure why it was literally stuck, but it seems like it somehow became physically attached, and was messing up the rail draw...it's like a little piece of metal melted together with the cable or something.

Going to plug the rest of the fans back in now.
     
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Hope all works well with the rest of the fans.
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Alright, now my GPU and 5 fans are being powered by the 5th slot, farthest from where the 20-pin mobo connector comes out of the PSU. Stable again, at least 15 mins.

-I have my 7800GS on the the cable's first connector.
-The second connector is powering the 5 fans.
-The third one is temporarily used by my multimeter.

It's actually interesting looking...the fans that came with the case have double-sided 4-pin -> fan -> 4-pin connectors; no cable inbetween the IN -> OUT parts, so I have a 3-4 inch white "connector-bar", made of nothing but them, twist tied to the sidepanel.

Kinda defeats the purpose of a side-panel....that is, nice looking insides.
     
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Well seems like you got you problem fixed How loud is it?
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Woohoo, 3Dmark06/Prime95 stable! I was a bit worried about running that much stuff off the same cable/slot, but apparently it can take it.

It's quite quiet, actually...my Volcano-12 is the loudest thing in the case. The side-panel with holes helps me hear it more than before...but if I turn it down, then I can barely hear my computer. From about 20 feet away you might mistake the noise for something else. If I go into the kitchen(around a corner), it is barely audible; 4 feet into the kitchen and I can't hear it at all. If the fridge or dishwasher are doing something, then I don't even have to enter the room for my computer's noise to be eclipsed. Compared to my old computer with 80mm fans, it is a ton more silent!

It seems to be blowing more air out the back too, but the air is cooler than before, so I'm guessing it's no longer getting caught in my case.
     
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FX-8350 @ 4.6ghz 1.425v Sabertooth 990FX Zotac GTX 1070 Amp! 32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury 1866mhz CL10 1T 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi 2TB - HDS723020BLA64 Crucial M500 960GB - CT960M500SSD1 WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate 2TB - ST2000DM001 WD 640GB Black - WD6401AALS Seagate 6TB - ST6000DM001 Micron M500 - MTFDDAK480MAV 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
Pioneer DVR-115DBK Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE LG GH22NS90 Lite-On EBAU108 External DVD 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Noctua NH-D15 Fractal Design 140mm Fan - FD-FAN-140 Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120 Windows 7 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152) BenQ GW2765HT 27" IPS LCD Monitor (2560x1440) Genius Keyboard KB-G235 PA 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSU - SS-1000XP Fractal Design Define R5 Steelseries Rival 6500 dcpi Mousepad + Desk 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Onboard Realtek® ALC 892 Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers Razer Krait 1600 DPI nGear G-C1601 Card Reader 
OtherOther
Pisen Card Reader Gigabyte M7 Thor 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
VIA Eden C7 1200mhz Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF VIA Onboard 512MB PC2-4200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
A-Data FlashDrive None Fanless Linux 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Headless None 65w Power Brick Antec ISK300-65 
MouseAudio
None Onboard VIA 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe 256MB BFG 7800GS OC 2x512MB Samsung PC3200 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Raptor 74GB/Seagate 120GB Windows 2000 Pro 60hz 17" CRT Brandless PS2 Keyboard 
PowerMouse
Antec Neo HE 550w Logitech G5 
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