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Heater core, pond pump, tubing for aquariums. 120 bucks. lachen.gif
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Really, what's wrong with the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit plus a GPU waterblock totaling around $300? As long as you buy an "unrestrictive" GPU block, I'd say you're fine. The pump is plenty strong for a CPU and GPU from all the research I've done. Check this Review of the Res/Pump Combo from the XSPC Rasa Kit courtesy of Los Hog from the XSPC Rasa 750 Club.

If you don't want to read the whole review, here's the flow rate with various combinations of Rads and multiple waterblocks:
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Here's the conclusion:
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I'm very impressed with bay reservoir pump for several reasons. First while it is a smaller pump, it still has plenty of power to run multiple block systems as long as the components are chosen and matched wisely. But more importantly it can do this with very minimal power consumption and with silence. In addition the large dual bay reservoir does a great job at bleeding and can operate with a varied level of coolant so the old problems I've seen with my old bay reservoir would not be an issue here. Also I like the nice large clear front view, it looks nice but it also functions to provide you with a visual on coolant levels and the slight movement in water would indicate all is well with the pump and flow rate is good. Finally the low power consumption and heat dump is very important particularly for smaller radiator systems where it counts the most.

The only issue you may run into is one that I currently have. You can get a perfectly silent pump or you can get one that makes noise. I have the latter it would seem. It started out silent, now it's not. However, many people assure me that XSPC is quick to answer Email and will send a replacement pump without you sending the bad one back if you send them a video for confirmation.
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post #23 of 30
Watercooling tends to get realy expencive, realy fast. If you have the money and realy want to go watercooling, thats your call. You can get watercooling at a budget, but if your going to cheap out I'd say you are better off getting a nice aftermarket aircooler or one of those ready made liquid coolers.
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Honestly, I got an apogee GTZ, MCR320, MCRES, and MCP655 all for €65 on an Irish buy and sell site.
If you go second-hand you can get some serious deals and the stuff I got might as well be new.

Realistically if it's going to be new I could tell you Irish prices but that's about it.
I'd get an XSPC raystorm CPU block, universal GPU block, EX360 rad, pick up an MCP350 in the OCN marketplace if possible and all you'd need is a res, some tubing and a killcoil or some PT nuke.

Prices for everything but the pump and res: All in £ sterling
CPU: 54.44
GPU: 48.09, could go with an EK HF too though.
Rad: 52.63

Res could cost as little as £20, pumps are about $35+shipping from a guy in the OCN marketplace if I recall correctly and he seems very reputable.

Call the pump £45, factor in some fittings or barbs and some fans (I use revoltec ones, they're cheap and I'm happy with them) and it'll be around 225-250 for good performance.

You could spend a lot more to make it look better though.

Edit: The guy in the marketplace is bmaverick
http://www.overclock.net/t/1179754/pumps-35-shipped
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Originally Posted by svthomas View Post

^this. Plus, don't buy a kit, you'll end up buying twice--build a custom loop, do it right the first time. smile.gif

^^^^^^ I have a feeling this might be right ^^^^

Right now I have 2x 6950 and a 965 x4.

However in future I'm either having OC 2x 7970 (600w) + OC cpu (180w) OR OC 3x 6950 (600w) + OC cpu (180w).
So I need a kit or own made loop to handle 800w.

Quote:
Originally Posted by breenemeister View Post

Really, what's wrong with the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit You can get a perfectly silent pump or you can get one that makes noise. I have the latter it would seem. It started out silent, now it's not. However, many people assure me that XSPC is quick to answer Email and will send a replacement pump without you sending the bad one back if you send them a video for confirmation.

Seems like the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit is wery popular and good?

What I want is to have watercooling parts ready for 800w TDP of CPU and GPU's, so I don't want to buy pump, radiator and so on and realize I need to upgrade if I get more TDP drawing components.

Is the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit sufficient for my needs(3x GPU 600w OC + OC 180w CPU) or should I look to hand pick everything myself?
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Quote:
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^this. Plus, don't buy a kit, you'll end up buying twice--build a custom loop, do it right the first time. smile.gif

^^^^^^ I have a feeling this might be right ^^^^

Right now I have 2x 6950 and a 965 x4.

However in future I'm either having OC 2x 7970 (600w) + OC cpu (180w) OR OC 3x 6950 (600w) + OC cpu (180w).
So I need a kit or own made loop to handle 800w.

Quote:
Originally Posted by breenemeister View Post

Really, what's wrong with the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit You can get a perfectly silent pump or you can get one that makes noise. I have the latter it would seem. It started out silent, now it's not. However, many people assure me that XSPC is quick to answer Email and will send a replacement pump without you sending the bad one back if you send them a video for confirmation.

Seems like the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit is wery popular and good?

What I want is to have watercooling parts ready for 800w TDP of CPU and GPU's, so I don't want to buy pump, radiator and so on and realize I need to upgrade if I get more TDP drawing components.

Is the XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit sufficient for my needs(3x GPU 600w OC + OC 180w CPU) or should I look to hand pick everything myself?



No I dont think the pump will handle three GPU's and a cpu. two gpu and a cpu yes if done right. I know it would work because I saw wermad do it in his 800D build. but not three I think you would need a stronger pump like a 655
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Watercooling tends to get realy expencive, realy fast. If you have the money and realy want to go watercooling, thats your call. You can get watercooling at a budget, but if your going to cheap out I'd say you are better off getting a nice aftermarket aircooler or one of those ready made liquid coolers.

^this. If you are going to build a custom loop, do it right, and that is going to cost $$.

I think my favorite part about building a new rig is planning out and installing the water cooling loop, it's rewarding watching/hearing the liquid in the reservoir burst to life each time the machine is powered on. Hope you have a great time with building/planning yours!
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No I dont think the pump will handle three GPU's and a cpu. two gpu and a cpu yes if done right. I know it would work because I saw wermad do it in his 800D build. but not three I think you would need a stronger pump like a 655

I agree with Los--I would build a loop to fit your exact needs, especially with running three cards.

Also, I don't believe 360mm is enough Rad, especially if you're overclocking--remember, the more rad you have, the more surface area you have for your fans to wick away heat from the overclocked components. I know I may have employed a bit of overkill for my system, but I am running two 240mm rads and I just have a GPU and CPU in my loop, although I did plan on expanding to a second GPU when I built it. But what I am trying to say is that my loop is tailored to my components, and future ones, it wasn't preboxed--it's something that will work for my system now, _and_ later.

Also, I don't believe 360mm is enough Rad, especially if you're overclocking--remember, the more rad you have, the more surface area you have for your fans to wick away heat from the overclocked components. A CPU and three GPUs put out a lot of heat, you need more surface area for your fans to wick it away from the rads.

Also, I like that Los said 'if done right,' because if you are going to try and get away with minimum rad (or you simply don't have room for more) you need to start being as efficient as possible, which in my opinion, means you _need_ to go custom on your loop. Choosing the right radiators, and then choosing the best fans _for_ those radiators; choosing the best pump(s) that is/are able to push through the restriction of your chosen rads and blocks; and, choosing the best/minimal tube routes, etc...

If I were you, I would start looking around the forums at what others have done with similar builds to get a feel for what 'works.' Then, when you have an idea of what you need, I would make a thread with a proposed loop and get some advice from people who have built similar setups and let their experience and previously spent $$ help you refine what you've got, which will more than likely result in some changes to your prospect build, saving you some headache and $$ down the road.

This would be my best advice for getting a price-point for what you're looking at spending if you choose to go under water--without knowing what products you're going to need/use, you really don't have a true way of knowing what it is going to cost. Have fun! This is an exciting part of building a loop!
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^this. If you are going to build a custom loop, do it right, and that is going to cost $$.
I think my favorite part about building a new rig is planning out and installing the water cooling loop, it's rewarding watching/hearing the liquid in the reservoir burst to life each time the machine is powered on. Hope you have a great time with building/planning yours!

Well I already have the pump and fans.

I'm going all out with a Mo-Ra 3 9x140, Main reason is noise.

I do know however that my pumps that are old moder Laing DDC1 are a bit noisy, so With the Mo-Ra 3 as it is external I'll be able to use my noise dampened Fractal R2 case as the other watercooling parts fit the case.

I might remove the harddrive cage and put the pump there as down there it's going to do less noise compared up in the 5.25" bay.
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My custom loop ran me about 400ish give or take.
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