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I'm a sad panda when you are limited to < 64 character passwords, 16 characters feels too short
rsa is okay, but there should be faster more complex routines like 15 seconds and only 1 attempt every hour

Think about how many people share the same 4 digit ATM pin.

There is only 10,000 possible combinations.
    
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So should I be running an anti-virus now? rolleyes.gif

Everyone should with how powerful modern computers are and how few system resources modern AV software uses. Why would you rather have more risk with zero benefit?
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because anti virus software(except microsoft security essentials) wrecks havok when trying to play a game online, with their pop ups and what not.

I dont really do online banking(still in college dont have much money to keep track of) but once i start i am gonna set up a totally different system for that, not even a VM just a totally different, isolated machine seperate from my network and servers.

Id rather deal with the inconvenience than be broke and screwed.
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post #64 of 78
they can always force users to have ridiculus passwords like my uni.
1. has to be 8 letters or more
2.Must contain 1 cap
3.Must contain number
4.cannot be the same as your username or your credentials (name id number etc)
5. Cannot be a word in the dictionary (??)
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they can always force users to have ridiculus passwords like my uni.
1. has to be 8 letters or more
2.Must contain 1 cap
3.Must contain number
4.cannot be the same as your username or your credentials (name id number etc)
5. Cannot be a word in the dictionary (??)

I found this post very, very relevant. Especially the text at the bottom.
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Passwords are outdated, and adding special characters doesn't help much. Creating a much longer passphrase on the other hand is a much better practice.
Additionally that is just passwords, and all banks should offer RSA or other tokens.
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they can always force users to have ridiculus passwords like my uni.
1. has to be 8 letters or more
2.Must contain 1 cap
3.Must contain number
4.cannot be the same as your username or your credentials (name id number etc)
5. Cannot be a word in the dictionary (??)

The default password at my college is just out postcode (zip code) laugher.gif

But yeah things that say your password should be something like that is stupid.
    
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Do online authentication restrictions trump the risk of using dictionary words?

Well, is correcthorsebatterystaple a dictionary word? Easy to remember and brute force guesses will get three-five tries at it on most web sites and web apps.

I hate all places that actually require me to use capital letters, numbers, AND special characters in the passwords. There is simply no reason for it. Just allow people to use a password that is longer than eight characters. Those are the bad websites. Especially if there is a key logger going on. You have normal text and then all of sudden you have "Fl4*@!!"...gee, I wonder if that is a password or a typo?
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post #68 of 78
eh, i got my online account access locked a few years ago when i forgot my password. Never bothered to call and have it unlocked. Not a big issue for me. its easier to call and check the balance anyway.
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Do people (even the people of OCN) think random numbers are secure? Random numbers are not the safest option compared to a self generated word like #@!0v3rcl0k.N3T!@#1.2.2


you jerk.. now I have to change all my passwords.

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on topic note the FBI is already posting a warning.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/january/malware_010612/malware_010612

tongue.gifbiggrin.giflachen.gifbiggrin.giftongue.gif

I only use this method for online accounts though that after a few guesses, one gets locked out. usually for these I often just have my password and to make it different throughout each site I change a few letters. Easy to remember. If I forget it, I look at the website name. smile.gif
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Well, is correcthorsebatterystaple a dictionary word? Easy to remember and brute force guesses will get three-five tries at it on most web sites and web apps.
I hate all places that actually require me to use capital letters, numbers, AND special characters in the passwords. There is simply no reason for it. Just allow people to use a password that is longer than eight characters. Those are the bad websites. Especially if there is a key logger going on. You have normal text and then all of sudden you have "Fl4*@!!"...gee, I wonder if that is a password or a typo?

Could be worse; it could be like the Vermont Student Assistance Corp (VSAC) that handles student loans in VT; they require you to have LESS THAN 8 characters, and still has such poor security that I had to spend quite a lot of time making a password short enough for their security. The still do in fact have that terrible restriction.
    
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