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1/6/12 at 7:15am
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I was in a middle of confusion in taking a good motherboard or good memory in order to achieve a more higher speed of memory. I got budget at $400-$450 and the part I want to buy are Processor ,which is already chosen and cannot be change .AMD llano A6-3650 (cost $100), and the other part are Asus llano motherboard and a ram. I'm going to use it for a local ASUS lliano OC contest in my place. The race only allowing on air cooling no other than that. 1 test that will be use is the most highest memory speed.

A bit story I got with memory OC-ing are at one time I'm oc-ing a ddr2 kingston memory which is the value version in an ok motherboard (ECS P45T-A2R) it can run pretty good I think tongue.gif ( 587 @ 5-5-5-15 on air) . the other time I manage to reach a high speed memory using a not so good motherboard (gigabyte G31M-S2L) but the memocy I'm using is OCZ reaper (I forgot the result its been awhile). I know both is in intel and both are still LGA 775 but I'm pretty sure the situation less or more is the same. I also own an AMD system which is phenom II X4 950 with a combined memory kingston and V-GEN (value version memory) with motherboard DFI DK-790FXB-M3H5 and it can run pretty good. a PC10600 in CL 7 while the default are CL 9.

the option I have in mind is I'm getting an ASUS F1A75M-LE (cost 100) and a memory with speed 16000 - 19200 that will cost me nearly 200 ot I'm getting an ASUS F1A75-V Pro and memory with lesser specification than that tongue.gif.

So what ever I say above in the end I really need a suggestion from master in here to help a nubie deciding which to take...thanks...biggrin.gif
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1/6/12 at 7:20am
It takes a good mobo, good RAM and a good IMC in the CPU to OC the RAM higher. FWIW- you will probably find the Gigabyte mobo allows you to OC the Llano higher than the Asus based on online reviews.
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1/6/12 at 7:36am
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It takes a good mobo, good RAM and a good IMC in the CPU to OC the RAM higher. FWIW- you will probably find the Gigabyte mobo allows you to OC the Llano higher than the Asus based on online reviews.

the competition is held by ASUS so I'm stuck with it biggrin.gif...from your words I'm taking that I must balance it. well it is good but I got limited budget frown.gif any extra suggestion?
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1/7/12 at 1:41am
Asus is usually pretty strong in memory performance,so you will want a high speed kit that you can tighten the timings on.With the Llano IMC,you should be able to run some real decent speeds and low-latency with the right kit.
if you are looking for just speed,take a look into this single stick
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147093
Samsung's 30nm chips are brand new, unheard of but have shown great overclocking in reviews
in overclocking you can usually reach a higher speed with one stick
for overall performance,go with something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231451
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476
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1/7/12 at 3:53am
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Asus is usually pretty strong in memory performance,so you will want a high speed kit that you can tighten the timings on.With the Llano IMC,you should be able to run some real decent speeds and low-latency with the right kit.
if you are looking for just speed,take a look into this single stick
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147093
Samsung's 30nm chips are brand new, unheard of but have shown great overclocking in reviews
in overclocking you can usually reach a higher speed with one stick
for overall performance,go with something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231451
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476

thank you for the reply i found out this 1 very useful. and so I'm going to get the g.skill memory. and for the motherboard hmm I can go with asus f1a75-v pro.
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It takes a good mobo, good RAM and a good IMC in the CPU to OC the RAM higher. FWIW- you will probably find the Gigabyte mobo allows you to OC the Llano higher than the Asus based on online reviews.

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1/9/12 at 5:48am
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Thanks for all the suggestion I'm done hunting. in the end I'm getting an AMD A3650, Asus F1A75-V Pro and the memory G.SKill F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS. hope to win this contest with these specs ^^
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You will never win with 1. a single stick (you will get more performance out of a lower clock speed and dual channel in most apps) and 2. 11-11-11 timings, if you are going to be running any performance tests.  I don't know if we can make any guarantees as to the binning of that kit here but considering the stock 1600 11-11-11 rating to begin with, the risk may not be worth the loss.  Even specific ICs can have binning patterns within that line.

 

I wouldn't suggest risking it with two of those and get a proven kit, but that's up to you.  Tip: AMD Llano APUs love bandwidth.  Single channel will seriously limit all around performance on the bandwidth-intensive APU platforms because the bandwidth is needed by the CPU and the GPU.  Buy a dual channel DDR3-1600 kit at the least.  Look for as fast RAM as you can ideally, that fits within your budget and purpose.  El gappo himself will recommend DDR3-2133 kits with APU overclocking.

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You will never win with 1. a single stick (you will get more performance out of a lower clock speed and dual channel in most apps) and 2. 11-11-11 timings, if you are going to be running any performance tests.  I don't know if we can make any guarantees as to the binning of that kit here but considering the stock 1600 11-11-11 rating to begin with, the risk may not be worth the loss.  Even specific ICs can have binning patterns within that line.

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thanks for the suggestion especially about the Llano OC tips I'll remember it ^^ . in the end I go with g.skill pc 16000 gbpis series. tho I'm hoping to get the 19200 but it isn't available in my place. so I just bought what I can get.
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