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The main reason that I like Steam is because it's my main way of talking to my real life friends. We have MSN, facebook sure.. but i'm always on Steam since I like to game alot and it helps that I can talk to my friends at anytime in game just by pressing Shift + Tab, it's also pretty neat that they store your stats and achievements. Fun to look at to see exactly how you compare to your friends and what you've done in that game that you'd may not have realized.
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

The guy with the 2005-2007 PC agrees. Just keep cranking out those 8800GTX optimized games and all of Steam will continue to be happy.

My pc is not from 2005.... but i am not talking about Origin and Steam, i am talking about the companys, and If you buy the new EA games on console (yes i care about consoles) you cant play online if you borrow or rent the game or even buy it used without buying an online pass.

EA games have better graphic than Valve's ? cmon... Fifa is getting better graphics every year ? or even NFS ? EA just cares about the money.
Edited by Faint1001 - 1/6/12 at 12:23pm
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My pc is not from 2005.... but i am not talking about Origin and Steam, i am talking about the companys, and If you buy the new EA games on console (yes i care about consoles) you cant play online if you borrow or rent the game or even buy it used without buying an online pass.
EA games have better graphic than Valve's ? cmon... Fifa is getting better graphics every year ? or even NFS and Sims ? EA just cares about the money.

Srry for double post.
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origin is still fairly new. so theres bound to be issues and i can see it taking off at some point or another. also, iirc steam was a hot mess when valve first released it. and it took them a good while before it finally became manageable.

Well I know in it's current form Origin is new but :
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EA Downloader was launched in late 2005.[8] It was replaced by EA Link in November 2006, adding trailers, demos and special content to the content delivery service. In September 2007, it was once again replaced by the combination of EA Store and EA Download Manager.[9] Users purchase from the EA Store website and use the downloadable EADM client to download their games.[10] Games bought via EA Link was downloadable using the EA Download Manager.[11] The store and client was reopened under the Origin name on June 3, 2011. The constant changes in the software and branding is criticized for being hard to follow.

From the Wikipedia page about Origin its currently in it's 4th rebranded form. rolleyes.gif
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I hope EA goes bankrupt oneday and DICE moves to Valve.

yep
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  • 1800 games now on Steam. Wonder how many of those I’ve played? At a total blind guess, around 400.
  • 40 million accounts registered. Doesn’t mean they’re all being used, of course. I know I’ve got about four myself, for instance.
  • Year-on-year sales increased by over 100%, for the seventh year running. Blimey!
  • Simultaneous users topped 5 million during December. Partly due to the holiday sale, Skyrim and MW3, I think.
  • Served over 780 petabytes of data; twice that of 2010. I don’t know how many megabytes a petabyte is, but I presume it’s a lot.
  • Chat Faliszek consumed over 900 live dogs during the development of Portal 2.
  • Over 14.5m Steamworks games were registered, 67% up from 2010. This one is probably the real biggie for Valve, as it means their community/cloud/achievement/DRMy stuff is increasingly becoming the PC gaming norm. Much as Steamworks tends to be useful, its move towards becoming the Xbox Live of PC gaming something I have mixed feelings about. Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!
  • Steamworks is now in over 400 games. See above.
  • Over 19m in-game items were traded (still only for Portal 2 and TF2, I think?)
Just WOW! :O
"Served over 780 petabytes of data"!!!
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780 Petabytes = 780,000 Terabytes
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post #27 of 85
One question: where is the source ? Not the source of this thread, but the source of the source ? Where did the writer of the article fetch those numbers from ? There is no source on the article.

If true, those are awesome numbers!

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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

EA lets it's devs crank up the visuals, while Valve is still catering to the guy with a 2005 PC that refuses to upgrade.
All that new hardware doesn't benefit you in any Valve title.
In recent years, Valve can't get anymore console. Just because they have a Holiday Sale, doesn't mean they are focused on PC gamers.
You guys can high five over CS:GO though. rolleyes.gif
AS for my position, I rather DRM be done any with completely, Origin, Uplay, GFWL, Steam etc. and any other client service.
Origin and Steam can sell games at a discount without forcing us to use their client along with it. But people have already accepted it so it going no where, no time soon.

Oh yes, EA lets it's devs crank up the visuals... and the latest Need for Speed game is capped at 30fps... to whom does that cater to ? Oh, wait, that is not even a 2005 PC thing, it's a console reminiscence.

Also, you don't know what you are talking about. Try running Portal 2 with everything maxed out in a PC from 2005 and then we'll talk. I have.

Thirdly, a good game is not made from good visuals alone. Let's see... the Single-player part of BF3 is not really that admirable is it ?

Valve is great at creating experiences, more than just a good game. If spends time developing an immersive experience, with an enticing storyline, mystery, suspense, with great physics, character animation, AI, etc. They keep innovating and paying attention to detail and they let us know they really like what they are doing. Their game commentary system, an industry first, is the best proof of that.

As to Valve not catering to newer hardware, they have this useful thing called the Steam Hardware Survey that lets everybody know the trends. True, they are still on DX9 and that caters to a wider audience, and in many cases DX9 can look almost as good as DX10 (let's not talk about DX10.1 because only one manufacturer, AMD / ATI, had that until Nvidia released the GTX 400 series in 2010), so the logical step will now be DX11. Of course you can't just release DX11 like that, knowing Valve they will make an impact.

Personally, I think we will all be in awe, just like in 2003, with what is most probably the best game presentation ever made so far:


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My pc is not from 2005.... but i am not talking about Origin and Steam, i am talking about the companys, and If you buy the new EA games on console (yes i care about consoles) you cant play online if you borrow or rent the game or even buy it used without buying an online pass.
EA games have better graphic than Valve's ? cmon... Fifa is getting better graphics every year ? or even NFS ? EA just cares about the money.

You can't borrow a Steam game from a friend, so what's your point? The only reason the online pass was implemented was because the publishers make no money from second-hand sales. They're losing out on money because someone is saving a little bit of money buying used instead, so they're recuperating their losses. Do I support the online pass? No, but I can understand where they're coming from.

EA is just a publisher. They don't directly control the graphics of games; the actual developers do.

EA games, despite the fact that they are just the publisher, actually DO have better graphics and they continue to improve. As countless people will tell you, Battlefield 3 looks amazing. Need for Speed: The Run, which is on the same Frostbite 2 engine, also looks superb.

I can max out L4D2 and many Source games with a Radeon HD 5550. That's pitiful. Don't even attempt to say that CS:S looks great because, quite frankly, it's outdated crap in the graphics department. Its graphics are playable, not good.
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post #29 of 85
i wonder if there doing this as they got hurt feeling from EA and BF3 and the introduction of origins?
i actually have not been on steam since the release of bf3, just saying
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Actually I just wanted to throw this in, The Steam user hardware survey.

Looks like alot of AMD CPU users there tongue.gif
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