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That tiny little gray square (looks black to me) is the EATX motherboard? If so this case is even bigger than imagined which is even better! thumb.gif

The TX10 is a bit taller and a bit deeper than the STH10 though, but yes it's deep enough to fit two HPTX motherboards on each side (not that there are mounts to do that though). That's why I've been telling people to measure out their space to make sure they want something this big lol. It's this deep to support huge radiators but as a result you end up with a huge amount of space in that middle chamber between the motherboard and the drive bays.
     
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Hello everyone, my first post on OCN.

I pre-ordered my STH10 back on 20-Jan, so I think I must be the last one to get in on the pre-order. So, while I am waiting to receive my new case I am trying to see how the radiators will fit into the top and bottom chambers.

I want to keep the three compartments thermally isolated. So, the top and bottom sections will each have "passthrough", side-to-side airflow. The general placement of the Rads and a PSU in the top and bottom sections is shown in the very rough mockup below.

514

I have only spent a few hours, so far, with SketchUp to learn enough to create this diagram. I intend to learn more.

Even though the bottom section can fit a 140.4 radiator on the side without a PSU, this mockup shows that I can only fit a 120.3 radiator in line with the Corsair AX1200 PSU. A 140.3 rad on the PSU side would only have about 11mm of space between them. This would not allow room for the PSU connectors.

Those blocks on the sides of the rads are std 25mm thick fans.

The sizes I used for the various parts are:
Rad 120.3 = 133mm x 397mm x 60mm
Rad 120.4 = 133mm x 517mm x 60mm
Rad 140.3 = 153mm x 460mm x 60mm
Rad 140.4 = 153mm x 605mm x 60mm

AX1200 PSU = 150mm x 86mm 186mm

STH10 size = HxDxW 819mm x 675mm x 286mm (I moved everything inwards by 15mm on three sides and 5mm on the back side, as a guess)

I am looking for a second or third opinion about the space available to fit this configuration.

Thanks in advance for your help,
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post #153 of 679
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Hello everyone, my first post on OCN.
I pre-ordered my STH10 back on 20-Jan, so I think I must be the last one to get in on the pre-order. So, while I am waiting to receive my new case I am trying to see how the radiators will fit into the top and bottom chambers.
I want to keep the three compartments thermally isolated. So, the top and bottom sections will each have "passthrough", side-to-side airflow. The general placement of the Rads and a PSU in the top and bottom sections is shown in the very rough mockup below.
514
I have only spent a few hours, so far, with SketchUp to learn enough to create this diagram. I intend to learn more.
Even though the bottom section can fit a 140.4 radiator on the side without a PSU, this mockup shows that I can only fit a 120.3 radiator in line with the Corsair AX1200 PSU. A 140.3 rad on the PSU side would only have about 11mm of space between them. This would not allow room for the PSU connectors.
Those blocks on the sides of the rads are std 25mm thick fans.
The sizes I used for the various parts are:
Rad 120.3 = 133mm x 397mm x 60mm
Rad 120.4 = 133mm x 517mm x 60mm
Rad 140.3 = 153mm x 460mm x 60mm
Rad 140.4 = 153mm x 605mm x 60mm
AX1200 PSU = 150mm x 86mm 186mm
STH10 size = HxDxW 819mm x 675mm x 286mm (I moved everything inwards by 15mm on three sides and 5mm on the back side, as a guess)
I am looking for a second or third opinion about the space available to fit this configuration.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Greg

You could instead install your PSU up top along with a 120.4 linked to a 120.2, on the bottom section you could install two 560 radiators. You don't want your PSU to act like a barrier reducing airflow! I only intend to run two 560's in the bottom section while locating the PSU up top by itself, this way there is nothing blocking airflow down below.

Hay sweet draw up you have there!thumb.gif
Edited by Systemlord - 1/31/12 at 9:46pm
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Systemlord:

Thanks for the quick reply. I was concerned about the bottom PSU blocking some of the airflow from the 140.4 rad. I wanted to have the PSUs physically distributed within the case in order to keep the wiring runs short(er). But, I may have to comprise on that design goal. If I did put both PSUs in the top section, then I could only fit two 120.3 rads in there. And then I would have two 140.4 rads in the bottom. But longer wiring runs from the PSUs. As it is now, I have two 120.3's, one 120.4, and one 140.4 of total radiator area. I will give some thought to your idea.

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Very nice diagram, I am also figuring out my thermal setup and like what you have proposed. I plan to use 2 PSU's in the top and a 120.4 and 120.3 rads in the bottom chamber. My only concern is I have Triebwerk fans that are 55mm thick so I am pretty sure I can only do a push or a pull . Also doubt I can use two sets of these fans one chamber if I use all triebwerk fans.

Do you have fans planned on both of each rad in a push pull configuration ? Where is the cool air flow soucre ? Are these sucking air in from the sides and exhausting out the front or back ? O sucking air in from the front or back and pushing them out the sides ?
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Very nice diagram, I am also figuring out my thermal setup and like what you have proposed. I plan to use 2 PSU's in the top and a 120.4 and 120.3 rads in the bottom chamber. My only concern is I have Triebwerk fans that are 55mm thick so I am pretty sure I can only do a push or a pull . Also doubt I can use two sets of these fans one chamber if I use all triebwerk fans.
Do you have fans planned on both of each rad in a push pull configuration ? Where is the cool air flow soucre ? Are these sucking air in from the sides and exhausting out the front or back ? O sucking air in from the front or back and pushing them out the sides ?

The fans are facing sideways so in one side and out the other way, have you even seen what the case looks like yet?
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Lol. Yes, I see that the way I asked the question is not clear. Where does the airflow enter the chamber to and exit ?
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Does the hot air exiting one rad pass to the other rad and exit out the other side ? Do both rads exit the hot air into the middle of the chamber between the radiators ? Does the fresh air come down in between the radiators in the chamber and pass through the rads and then exit out the sides ?

Hope that is a bit clearer.

Thanks.
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Does the hot air exiting one rad pass to the other rad and exit out the other side ? Do both rads exit the hot air into the middle of the chamber between the radiators ? Does the fresh air come down in between the radiators in the chamber and pass through the rads and then exit out the sides ?
Hope that is a bit clearer.
Thanks.

In the base you would generally want to do it this way yes, air comes in the middle of the bottom and exhausts out both sides
     
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Ronsanut: The airflow is from one side through both rads and out the other side.

Stren: I agree that it would be ideal to have the intakes on the ends and then exhaust the hot air out boths sides. But, the ends of the bottom chamber of the STH10 is about 286mm x 250mm. So,they would provide a total of about 143,000 mm^2 of intake area while the two sides provide about 270,000 mm^2 of exhaust area. This seems like a large imbalance between intake and exhaust area. I do not know if that makes a significant difference.



After giving it some thought, I decided to put both PSUs in the top. This would give me more total rad capacity which should take priority over trying to minimizing the wiring lengths.

So, I would have two 120.3 rads plus two AX1200 PSUs in the top and two 140.4 rads in the bottom. All rads will have standard 25mm thick fans in push/pull. Both sections will have airflow from one side to the other side.

I think I am going to like using SketchUp to experiment with general placement of components while I wait on delivery of my STH10 case.

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