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After I get everything sorted out, I will do a full build log on here for you guys smile.gif

Have been reading some conflicting opinions across the guides I've been reading about size and amount of rads needed for a CPU + 2x GPU loop...

Here is my current build, will be moving everything from the HAF X into a Caselabs M10.
  • Case - HAF X
  • CPU - 2600k
  • Motherboard - Asus Maximus IV Extreme
  • GPU - 2x AMD 6950 Reference model
  • PSU - Corsair AX850

Adding to the build:
  • Case - Caselabs M10
  • Sleeving - Mod/smart black sleeving (Any negatives to this? Price looks right for what I want to do)
  • Fan Controller - SUNBEAMTECH PL-RS-6 RHEOSMART 6 FAN CONTROLLER (May get 2 of these if I add a 2nd Rad)

This is the list ive put together so far for the WC loop--do have a few final questions though..
  • CPU Block - EK Supreme HF Universal Block Rev3
  • GPU Block (x2) - EK Radeon HD6970 VGA Block - Acetal + Electroless Nickel Plated
  • GPU Backplate - EK Radeon HD 6970 RAM Backplate
  • Radiator - XSPC RX360 Triple 120mm Rev2
  • Reservoir - EK-Multioption RES X2 - 250 Advanced
  • Pump - Custom Laing D5 - Bitspower Matte Black Dress Kit & Mod Top
  • Rad Fans - COUGAR CF-V12HP (Been hearing great things about these, and they match a color scheme I'm going for biggrin.gif)

Questions:
  1. I've been reading that for the CPU/2xGPU loop, a single 360 Rad will not be sufficient...do I need to add a 240--possibly another 360?
  2. At what point do you look to adding another pump/res into the mix...or even splitting into 2 loops?
  3. Compression fittings look (visually) like what I want, but I've heard that they may be less reliable than standard barbs/clamps--or is there a superior brand of Compression fittings I should grab that will ensure reliability?
  4. Tubing--I think I want ID:7/16, the tighter seal sounds like a safe route to take, but I have no perspective on the OD...I've read that ticker = better, because you won't get any twists, I guess the OD would be taken in regards to my 3rd question.
  5. Anything else I may have overlooked/forgotten?

Price is not a huge object, more worried about performance. I tried to grab some of the higher end WC parts, if there's anything I could improve upon, please let me know! and thanks for any help!
Edited by itskerby - 1/6/12 at 8:35pm
     
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post #2 of 13
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Edited to make it more readable, been reading about the EX rads in another thread, they are sounding pretty nice. Would another 360 be overkill, should I grab a 240? I think I could fit 2x360's in the m10.
     
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Over kill is great lol. I have four 360 fads in my case right now biggrin.gif I say if you got the money and case space do it and don't look back. thumb.gif
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At what point would I start to worry about restriction in the loop caused by another rad? Would a 2nd 360 Rad call for another pump--or should I consider doing two seperate loops at that point?
     
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I recommend using bitspower compression fittings, they're a bit expensive but really worth it.

Since money isn't an issue and being future safe wouldn't hurt, go for another 240 if you have the space.

As for 2 loops, im not that experienced with having 2 of them. Wouldn't it be harder to drain and fill?
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I am watercooling a Hafx and I decided to go overboard.
I have a 3 X 140mm that is going outside the case mounted on top side ways like a mohawk
next to the case on the floor will be a 9 X 140mm rad that will be on quick disconects if I have to move the large case on it's wheels.
also ther is a 1 X 140mm that is attached to rear exaust on outside again.
it leaves lots of room to build in the case and you can leave all the 200mm fans in place
Here is a pic as it stands, still waiting on a few bits n pieces next week then I will build it in it's next guise
the CPU is still on air for now and you can see the large Rad in background, the table is just temporary.
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At what point would I start to worry about restriction in the loop caused by another rad? Would a 2nd 360 Rad call for another pump--or should I consider doing two seperate loops at that point?
. Rads dont make restriction for a loop your still fine with one pump
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Alright, update on my parts list...
Hit a snag in my funds this morning--but no worry, I'll just move the build back a month or so and toss an Ivy Bridge in there biggrin.gif
And now I'm not sure if I want an M8 or if I should spring for a TH10 (or bigger). Guess it will depend on mobo sizes when Ivy hits.

As an aside...I'd really like to get black tubing, but would that make it more difficult for a first time build, trying to get air bubbles out?
If not I have an idea in my mind for orange lighting and ice blue tubing, or dyed blue water.
  • Radiator(s) - (Hearing some good reports about the EX's across the forums..I'll give them a shot)
  • XSPC EX360
  • XSPC EX240
  • Reservoir
  • EK-Multioption RES X2 - 250 Advanced
  • Pump
  • Laing D5 w/ Bitspower Matte Black Dress kit & Bitspower Black Matte Mod top
  • Fittings
  • Bitspower Matte black Compression (7/16-5/8)
  • (Still trying to figure out my loop arrangement...then I'll probably grab some 45 degree fittings)

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Alright, update on my parts list...
Hit a snag in my funds this morning--but no worry, I'll just move the build back a month or so and toss an Ivy Bridge in there biggrin.gif
And now I'm not sure if I want an M8 or if I should spring for a TH10 (or bigger). Guess it will depend on mobo sizes when Ivy hits.
As an aside...I'd really like to get black tubing, but would that make it more difficult for a first time build, trying to get air bubbles out?
If not I have an idea in my mind for orange lighting and ice blue tubing, or dyed blue water.
  • Radiator(s) - (Hearing some good reports about the EX's across the forums..I'll give them a shot)
  • XSPC EX360
  • XSPC EX240
  • Reservoir
  • EK-Multioption RES X2 - 250 Advanced
  • Pump
  • Laing D5 w/ Bitspower Matte Black Dress kit & Bitspower Black Matte Mod top
  • Fittings
  • Bitspower Matte black Compression (7/16-5/8)
  • (Still trying to figure out my loop arrangement...then I'll probably grab some 45 degree fittings)

I wouldn't worry about getting the bubbles out of the loop as much. I have white tubing and all I did was tap on the tubing/move the pc around till it didn't seem like anything else was coming out and then just let it run for a few hours to get the micro bubbles out. I did have to add more water after a week or so because enough bubbles came out to lower the water level.

I would go with colored tubing instead of dyes and colored coolants because they can clod up the blocks and stain almost anything. Plus if the loop gets cloudy then your out of luck. frown.gif The simple colored tubing with Distilled water and a kill coil works flawlessly. smile.gif

Great choice on the barbs because Bitspower makes great compression fittings and they look mighty fine biggrin.gif

Good luck with the overall build!
 
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I wouldn't worry about getting the bubbles out of the loop as much. I have white tubing and all I did was tap on the tubing/move the pc around till it didn't seem like anything else was coming out and then just let it run for a few hours to get the micro bubbles out. I did have to add more water after a week or so because enough bubbles came out to lower the water level.
I would go with colored tubing instead of dyes and colored coolants because they can clod up the blocks and stain almost anything. Plus if the loop gets cloudy then your out of luck. frown.gif The simple colored tubing with Distilled water and a kill coil works flawlessly. smile.gif
Great choice on the barbs because Bitspower makes great compression fittings and they look mighty fine biggrin.gif
Good luck with the overall build!

Right on...Colored tubing offers 90% of the effect, but nothing to see in the res; but in the interest of low maintenance and long operating life...
Colored tubing it is! Thanks for the heads up.
Now...reading about mixing metals in my loop...are the EK electroless nickel blocks safe to use with the copper rads? Or is that still up for debate?
     
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Sophos UTM Home Edition Silverstone Sugo SG05BB 
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