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it's not a big deal. this is the low-end we're talking about. R&D costs money, so when it's not necessary, there's no reason to do it. The low-end of the HD 5xxx and 6xxx series cards are still capable cards.

This. Who cares honestly. A 5770/6770 is still a capable budget card and should become the 7670 or whatever. Spend the money improving the top end, where it matters for consumers who will be able to use the changes and power and realize the difference and value of the purchase.
 
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They don't want to compete with their APU line.

I could see them releasing Trinity and a new set of GPUs for this segment together though.... thinking.gif It would make sense to release both at the same time.
     
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i guess times are tough at AMD headquarters :/
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This is surprising.... not. I totally expected them to spend oodles of funds revamping really cheap cards.... not.
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You'd think that their lower end cards would benefit most from a die shrink. These next generation of cards look like they're going to be disappointing, but only time will tell. 79xx is great, but the pricing isn't, and they only barely qualified for launching their 7k series cards in 2011 like promised. Nvidia on the other hand has nothing at all to show for at the moment.

Perhaps next generation will have a stronger showing from both companies.
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5770-6770 wasn't quite rebrand, was more of a subtle tweak.
Nvidia rebranded its GTX500M line to GTX600M, so it makes sense for AMD to do the same.

Sorry I have to disagree with the statement that there was some kind of tweak when going from 5770 to 6770 so this could not be labeled as just flat out rebrand. All it takes to turn an 5770 into a 6770 is BIOS upgrade. I have done it without any kind of problems. The Sapphire 5770 in my rig is at the moment quite happily Sapphire 6770. Only significant difference between the cards is HDMI 1.4 adding 3D support though HDMI. As it can be done with just a BIOS upgrade its not exactly a tweak in the card architecture.

6770 was just a 5770 with a line of code changed in BIOS telling you that this is a 6770 card.

You can even crossfire 6770 and 5770 cards without bothering with flashing the 5770 into a 6770 card.

I flashed mine bcos I had some stability issues but as it turned out this did nothing with these issues. Eventually I figured out that the stability issues were coming from third gfx card in my system (a 4290 on my motherboard). Afterwards just did not bother flashing the 5770 back into a 5770 as it works fine with either BIOS.
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I know the 6770 is just a rebranded 5770 but since the number order changed shouldn't the 6770 be looked at against the 5670 in which case it is an improvement?
     
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I know the 6770 is just a rebranded 5770 but since the number order changed shouldn't the 6770 be looked at against the 5670 in which case it is an improvement?

As 6770 is exactly the same card at the same price point as 5770 I do not see why should it or how could it to be compared against 5670. The number scheme was shuffled around in the higher section of the scheme. Which was lame enough as 5870 beats the 6870 with one arm behind its back. So as far as I can see the AMD just tried to scam the uninformed consumers with that shuffle who had got used to 48xx and 58xx series to be the high end segment.
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This. Who cares honestly. A 5770/6770 is still a capable budget card and should become the 7670 or whatever. Spend the money improving the top end, where it matters for consumers who will be able to use the changes and power and realize the difference and value of the purchase.

The 6770 isn't becoming the 7670 though, the 6670 is. No improvement whatsoever. I'm hoping it will turn out to be a die shrink and therefore clock very high, but Anand is saying otherwise.
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They don't want to compete with their APU line.
I could see them releasing Trinity and a new set of GPUs for this segment together though.... thinking.gif It would make sense to release both at the same time.

Agreed.
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You'd think that their lower end cards would benefit most from a die shrink. These next generation of cards look like they're going to be disappointing, but only time will tell. 79xx is great, but the pricing isn't, and they only barely qualified for launching their 7k series cards in 2011 like promised. Nvidia on the other hand has nothing at all to show for at the moment.
Perhaps next generation will have a stronger showing from both companies.

The 7700 and 7800 cards seem to be very good as well.
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I know the 6770 is just a rebranded 5770 but since the number order changed shouldn't the 6770 be looked at against the 5670 in which case it is an improvement?

No because the 6770 is priced like a 5770 not like a 5670.
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It's the low-end, there's only upgraders really buying those cards. As far as AMD is concerned the iGPU in say, Llano is the future for that market segment.

Yeah, upgraders. That's what they're for. People looking to "upgrade" their 6670 to a 7670. Oh, wait, they're the same, except the average lay person will never know that. rolleyes.gif

And no, don't waste your time saying "lolz, nvidia fanboy can't remember the 8800-9800 series" because - oh yes, yes I can, and it was just as distasteful.
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Core i5 760 ASUS 55i Sabertooth EVGA 960 4GB 8gb 1600mhz Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120gb Intel 320 (OS) 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Win 7 64 Viewsonic VX2250-Wm 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G 550w Gold Lancool PC-K9B Logitech G5 X-Fi Titanium/AT-H700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4690k Asus Z97 Sabertooth mk2 EVGA 970 8gb Kingston 1833mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
128GB Samsung 830 500GB Samsung 840 Evo allota fans but quiet! Win 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311H Rev. A01 Mechanical w/ Cherry Blues NZXT Hale 650w NZXT Phantom - white 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Anker CG100 Steelseries 9HD Sennheiser HD555 
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