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You must've missed the rest of my post where I clearly mention using the command line. I can install, uninstall, clean etc. from command line. Won't bother downloading with it, though I've even edited system files with it.
My main point, if something breaks, no, I'm not willing to boot into a command prompt to fix it. Now, if you could tell me outright how to get 1440x900 resolution on Arch I'd be interested. Wouldn't ever touch it again, I don't have time or patience for frivilous work. The whole point of Linux is using it to be more productive, not spending half your time keeping the OS running. I can tell you right now, most enterprise Linux users use RHEL, not Arch, not Gentoo, etc. Even server editions don't cause as much headaches as Arch.

That's enterprises, and completely beside the point as we aren't here telling an enterprise what to use. You should probably get off the hate bandwagon and re-evaluate what you did. Depending on the drivers you use, nvidia will auto detect your monitors native resolution, amd will as well. If the off chance they don't, simply use THEIR tools to change the res and don't edit the xorg file if you don't know what you're doing, as the xorg file gives everyone headaches, even those of us who know how to edit it manually.

$10 says a few mins with me in irc and I can have you happily on Arch with no problems wink.gif

I've used just about every distro in the world that's publicly and readily available, and never have had as much trouble with any of them as you seem to have with Arch.

But just because you've had one issue with Arch doesn't mean the rest of the world has. You provide something you had wrong and no information surrounding the situation, else I'd be able to tell you exactly what you need to do. Proprietary and 3rd party drivers make a big difference, and some find others easier more than the other.

You hop on my install and there is no 'spending half your time keeping the OS running'. Why? Because after you get it up and running, it's as smooth as can be.

And the point of linux is you can do what you want. You want to get it up and running, you can do so easily. You want to to break it and learn to fix, you can do that to. You want to do this, go ahead, that, sure why not.
post #42 of 46
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Thanks for all the advice guys... I am usually the kind of person to jump into the deeper end right away, so I think Arch might be the way for me, but of course, if I find I am linux illiterate, I will have to switch to a "windows" version maybe just to get the hang of it... But I think i will be able to handle Arch, Ill just have to do my reading and such. I am a patient person, so it shouldnt take me to long to learn the basics... thumb.gif

Good luck and have fun smile.gif
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You must've missed the rest of my post where I clearly mention using the command line. I can install, uninstall, clean etc. from command line. Won't bother downloading with it, though I've even edited system files with it.
My main point, if something breaks, no, I'm not willing to boot into a command prompt to fix it. Now, if you could tell me outright how to get 1440x900 resolution on Arch I'd be interested. Wouldn't ever touch it again, I don't have time or patience for frivilous work. The whole point of Linux is using it to be more productive, not spending half your time keeping the OS running. I can tell you right now, most enterprise Linux users use RHEL, not Arch, not Gentoo, etc. Even server editions don't cause as much headaches as Arch.

Inaccurate statement is inaccurate - CentOS is by far the most used enterprise distro.

EVERY distro is, potentially, "enterprise"; it is not a magic word by any means - it is really just down to what packages you use and if you pay for support.

I still stick to my original suggestion - Slackware; it is the oldest distro still being maintained and copes with all you can throw at it.

It is also an excellent distro to learn on.

It surpasses RHEL by leaps, bounds and strides.

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if something breaks, no, I'm not willing to boot into a command prompt to fix it.

This, alone, tells us quite explicitly that you are not 'that' interested in Os'es and how they work - rather, you are using *nix out of curiosity; nothing more, and, nothing less.

What do you think CL is for, if not to FIX THE SYSTEM?

(begin sarcasm) Yes, we can all - as savvy *nix users - use CL to cp, rm, chmod, etc... it looks "cool" if a nublet is hawking over your shoulder (/sarcasm)... personally if I want to move a file I use my mouse and the GUI...

If I want to fix an issue, thats when I am really luvvin' the terminal smile.gif
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Also you state:
This, alone, tells us quite explicitly that you are not 'that' interested in Os'es and how they work - rather, you are using *nix out of curiosity; nothing more, and, nothing less.
What do you think CL is for, if not to FIX THE SYSTEM?

This is what got me. He was apparently willing to use it when it was optional, but not necessary...
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(begin sarcasm) Yes, we can all - as savvy *nix users - use CL to cp, rm, chmod, etc... it looks "cool" if a nublet is hawking over your shoulder (/sarcasm)... personally if I want to move a file I use my mouse and the GUI...
If I want to fix an issue, thats when I am really luvvin' the terminal smile.gif

Personally for me CLI is faster, such as when moving a group of the same files say... a png, a simple "mv *.png ~/pictures" would do the job and I wouldn't have to even look at a file browser let along potentially click/shift/ctrl 100+ files. I admit I use file browsers from time to time, mainly just use Thunar with thumbnails to see what certain pictures are if I'm not too lazy to use feh.
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This is what got me. He was apparently willing to use it when it was optional, but not necessary...
Personally for me CLI is faster, such as when moving a group of the same files say... a png, a simple "mv *.png ~/pictures" would do the job and I wouldn't have to even look at a file browser let along potentially click/shift/ctrl 100+ files. I admit I use file browsers from time to time, mainly just use Thunar with thumbnails to see what certain pictures are if I'm not too lazy to use feh.

I totally get and respect and agree with your point when performing ops such as batch move etc.

My example was simplistic merely to make a point regarding most normal desktop tasks. smile.gif
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I totally get and respect and agree with your point when performing ops such as batch move etc.
My example was simplistic merely to make a point regarding most normal desktop tasks. smile.gif

Yeah, I also agree with your point.
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